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07-26-2014, 07:13 AM
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Auto air conditioner 2014 Anthem
our 2014 Auto air conditioner wasn't putting out a decent amount of cold air. We have the Inspire front condenser, not the advertised Anthem rear condenser. Anyway the factory never installed the fuse to run the condenser fan. Installed a 25 amp fuse in position 16 left front fuse box and now it's nice and cool. Suggest if you have an 2014 Anthem with the front condenser (its on the passenger side) check if the fan is turning, if not install the fuse the factoy missed.r
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07-26-2014, 08:39 AM
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Thanks for sharing the tip. I know mine is running, it sounds like a small turbine engine when it kicks in. I asked Entegra if there was anyway to quite that and they said it was normal.
The Anthem is also in the front, outside right in front of the step well.
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07-26-2014, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crowleytj
We have the Inspire front condenser, not the advertised Anthem rear condenser.
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Hmmm, guess I missed that detail. We also have an Anthem with condenser in right front side (our fan works). What (if anything) are the negatives of having the front condenser ?
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07-26-2014, 09:25 AM
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Yeah, and you won't believe how much dust the condenser fan combined with the genny radiator fan kicks up! Two weeks ago I was creeping (less than 3mph) out of the gravelly sea she'll dust campground at Pensacola NAS and it looked like I was grain truck on a Kansas farm road in August with clouds of dust. It's sort of embarrassing. When I see a dusty campground I've tried lately to shutoff the dash AC and the genny if possible.
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07-26-2014, 09:54 AM
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I don't see how you could have a rear condenser and still get the cool air to come out up front.
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07-26-2014, 10:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRUSA14
I don't see how you could have a rear condenser and still get the cool air to come out up front.
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Long hoses?
In the Sticks and Bricks house the condenser and evaporator are separated by 50 feet of tubing. Should work the same using flexible hoses instead of hard copper line.
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07-26-2014, 10:05 AM
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I don't know how it is plumbed Marc but I have a condenser up front by the genny and another one mid coach in the vicinity of the front tag axle. You can hear it blowing quite a but when you walk by.
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07-26-2014, 10:07 AM
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I believe the rear one you describe is your transmission cooler. They showed it to us at Spartan school.
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07-26-2014, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hogdriver
Yeah, and you won't believe how much dust the condenser fan combined with the genny radiator fan kicks up! Two weeks ago I was creeping (less than 3mph) out of the gravelly sea she'll dust campground at Pensacola NAS and it looked like I was grain truck on a Kansas farm road in August with clouds of dust. It's sort of embarrassing. When I see a dusty campground I've tried lately to shutoff the dash AC and the genny if possible.
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Not to hijack the thread, but I don't believe in going to the 250 hours to change the generator oil for the reasons you mentioned. Our generator are right down in the dirt when running and not in a perfect clean inviroment.
I also wish the condenser fan was in an area that it wasn't so noise.
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07-26-2014, 12:06 PM
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The advantages to having the condenser in this arrangement would be fuel economy, ease of installation and it's a whole lot easier to service. Many of the older models had the condenser mounted on the radiator. That means that you would have to cycle the hydraulic fan to keep air moving on the condenser. Meaning the fan, which pulls something like 75 hp, is sometimes running just to cool the condenser. By isolating it upfront, with it's own fan, it runs in a cooler(no additional heat sources) environment and is much more efficient. When the ac is on, air always has to be moving across the condenser which is why the original poster was having cooling issues.
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07-26-2014, 12:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRUSA14
I believe the rear one you describe is your transmission cooler. They showed it to us at Spartan school.
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That could be. I haven't taken the time to follow the hoses yet. If it is the tranny cooler, the fan sounds just like the AC condenser fan.
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Originally Posted by Nowabeachbum
The advantages to having the condenser in this arrangement would be fuel economy, ease of installation and it's a whole lot easier to service. Many of the older models had the condenser mounted on the radiator. That means that you would have to cycle the hydraulic fan to keep air moving on the condenser. Meaning the fan, which pulls something like 75 hp, is sometimes running just to cool the condenser. By isolating it upfront, with it's own fan, it runs in a cooler(no additional heat sources) environment and is much more efficient. When the ac is on, air always has to be moving across the condenser which is why the original poster was having cooling issues.
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That makes some sense. There's only so many locations to place the condenser fan. My 02 Monaco had a combo condenser fan and tranny cooler on the side of the RV and I don't think it worked as well as seperate units.
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07-26-2014, 05:07 PM
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There is a benefit in spending your working life sitting in front of turbine engines, I can't hear most of the noises complained about!
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07-26-2014, 09:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TXBart
There is a benefit in spending your working life sitting in front of turbine engines, I can't hear most of the noises complained about!
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You're right Vance. The Travel Supreme compressor fan was much quieter, but it did not cool as well as the Entegra in hot weather. Now I know why we have the 6 function dash radios, turn them up and chill out
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07-27-2014, 05:42 AM
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A different issue with dash air
I'm having issues with the vacumn powered dash air valves. On a recent trip I noticed air was blowing, just not out the vents. Eventually (like 30 mins later) I heard a "pufffff" then air blowed full blast out the vents. I had been in the habit on each shutdown of turning the dash air to off to close the vents and then opening next day on startup. On my recent trip I stopped doing this and left well enough alone. I called CS and they thought maybe something like a wire or cable was catching on the pneumatic actuator behind the dash radio panel. I haven't opened it up yet but I suspect wire bundling again. Heads up.
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