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Old 03-13-2016, 06:43 AM   #15
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I have a car wash guru detail guy in my town who says use nothing but the paint sealant stuff- and boy does it shine when he and his crew do it... in between I wash with the cr spotless system. my anthem always looks great....
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Old 03-13-2016, 08:36 AM   #16
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What is a good recommend buffer
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Old 03-13-2016, 08:53 AM   #17
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I use the Porter Cable 7424 which is considered one of the better buffers but as long as it's a orbiter buffer you should be good to go. One drawback is the buffer will get heavy trying to polish one of these brutes. Here's a recent conversation on my buffer is better than yours: http://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/powe...er-280536.html
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Old 03-13-2016, 10:24 AM   #18
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My orbital bugger is an old Sears 9 inches that I have had for probably 30 years. Get the lightest one you can find. Don't worry about how long it will last....lighter is better. Harbor Freight has them for $20. and a large selection of pads available. 10 in. Random Orbit Polisher
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Old 03-13-2016, 02:51 PM   #19
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I would wait 30 days. I hear different figures from everywhere on the time. It's true that the Entegra finishes are hard but a Cornerstone gets lots of coats and that dos affect cure time so I stick with 30 days. Longer doesn't hurt. At 30 days there is really no need for a buffer. If the finish is clean all you need to do I apply sealant and the Meguiars #21 goes on easy by hand. Once you have swirls (typically from a non-orbital buffer or someone who didn't use enough polish) or scratches, then you'll need to polish them and that's where the orbital buffer comes in. I do have the Porter-Cable 7424, which I consider to be the best, although not the lightest.
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Old 03-13-2016, 07:32 PM   #20
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Does anyone use Wash & Wax? Many of the dealers use this to prepare units for delivery without the white deposits on seams. It goes on easy and removes all water spots and hold a shine...
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I waited the 100 days....but I'm not an expert. My research on the the sikkens paint led me to wait 100 days.
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Does anyone use Wash & Wax? Many of the dealers use this to prepare units for delivery without the white deposits on seams. It goes on easy and removes all water spots and hold a shine...
I've used Wash & Wax for several years, it's a great product and works as advertised. I even use it on my classic cars.
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Does anyone use Wash & Wax? Many of the dealers use this to prepare units for delivery without the white deposits on seams. It goes on easy and removes all water spots and hold a shine...
I bought a kit from a fellow RV'er that was a dealer for Wash/Wax. Have loved it so far. I bought the pole and the whole works, but have ended up just using the spray on and wipe off with the cloths that came in the kit. I usually do half one day, and half the next. I will still buff once a year, but his stuff has worked for me well.
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Unless my coach is real grimy, I have been using waterless car wash products of various brands for years.
Recently, I came across a concentrated product from Chemical Guys that is mixed 16:1 with filtered or deionized water.
I love this stuff. It is easy to use, quick and leaves a brilliant shine. If used as directed, it does not swirl. I can wash my coach anywhere in sun or shade without a drop of water in half the time. Really beats dragging out hoses, buckets, rags, soap etc.

A one gallon jug for about $90 will make 16 gallons of product. One gallon of mixed product will do my coach at least four to six times, minimum.
I still uses 303 on the rubber and on the Diamond Shield but the rest of the coach, it's waterless.....

I'm always getting comments like "How do you get your old bus to shine like that?"

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I wrote to Griots Garage asking this specific question. Here's their reply:

Hello Pat,

Thank you for your email in which you are asking for advice on how to maintain and protect the finishes on your Motor Homes. You said that you see the benefit in both the Boss and 3’ Random Orbital. The following is my recommendation to simplify the care for you clear coated paint jobs on your motor coaches. Just so you know, I am a proud owner of a Pleasure Way Class B motor coach that I take a great deal of pride in and therefore what I recommend for your rigs is what I use on my motor coach. So the following is a step by step series of steps and procedures that I recommend to start with, particularly if the motor coach has been neglected for a period of time.

First wash you rig with our Paint Prep, item # 11135, Dawn Dish Detergent or Simple Green to remove any old wax, sealant or road oils. You want to see the water sheet off instead of beading up. I recommend that you use our Wash Mop Stick Kit, item # 78306 with extendable pole so as not to scratch your rig.

The next step is to apply our Speed Shine, item # 11146 and Paint Cleaning Clay, item # 11153 to remove particulates that if not removed can cause new swirl marks and light scratches.

Next step is to apply polish if needed for scratches or swirl marks or oxidation. This can be accomplished with our Complete Compound, item # 10862 with the Use of our “Random Orbital, item # 10813 and our 3” Random Orbital, item # 10739.

When you are satisfied with any surface correction you made, I recommend the application of you Liquid Gloss Poly Wax, item # 10916 as this will provide the longest protection of up to 14 months and offers the highest shine for that wet look. This is a man made polymer like a sealant that works very well on RVs, boats and trailers that typically most owners don’t want to do any more often than they need to.

You mentioned the Boss Orbital. The Boss Orbital was designed and is recommended for those who have extensive experience with the use of orbital’s and for professional detailers who need to conduct more serious paint corrections. Also the traditional Random Orbital is much better suited for wax application and the Liquid Gloss Poly Wax and sealants than the Boss. The Boss also requires a completely different set of polish pads than the regular Random Orbital. That’s not to say that you can never use the Boss system for what I recommend for you , but it is much more than I think you will need.

Assuming you use the regular Random Orbital, item # 10813 you will need the following foam pads. For Polishing with the Complete Compound, you want to use our Orange Foam Correcting Pad, item # 10633. I recommend at least three as these because they will get laden with product, will get mushy and will wear out if you don’t replace them occasionally. When replacing them you simply rinse them in like warm water and let them air dry.

For applying the Liquid Gloss Poly wax, I recommend that you use the Red Foam Wax Pad, item # 10620, and again replace then periodically so that you have a fresh pad. When buffing off polish I recommend our Polish Removal Cloths, item #11115, and for buffing off the Liquid Gloss poly wax I recommend our Wax Removal Cloths, item # 11116.

I have the following recommendations for your wheels and tires. I recommend our Heavy Duty Wheel Cleaner item # 11026 for cleaning and our Rubber Cleaner, item # 11137 and our Rubber Prep, item # 11071 for deeper cleaning before applying new Tire Dressing. I use and recommend our Long lasting Tire dressing, item # 11044 because after I apply it I wipe it down with paper towels to achieve a satin finish instead of a glossy finish. For wheel protection you can also apply the Liquid Gloss Poly Wax to help defray brake dust on your wheel.

We also offer glass polishes to remove water spots, item # 11074AND Glass Polishing Pads, item 10614 for the 6” orbital and # 10665 for the 3’ orbital.

Whew, I know this is a lot of information and once you get your motor home in shape, you don’t necessarily have to apply each and every step. After that you want to use the proper soap foe washing and the proper drying technique to prevent water spots, and if you do get some water spots we have products to help that as well. I hope this helps.

If you have any additional questions, please feel free to reply to this email, or call our Customer Service Department at (800) 345-5789 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. PST Monday through Friday, 7:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Saturday.

Thank you again for your email Pat, and remember to call me personally if you have any further questions!

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You can't go wrong with Griots Garage products. In addition the support you got they have lots of how to videos for most of their products to help you understand how to use them.
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:00 AM   #28
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Mark, I've done a search on the Meguiars website and cannot find '#21 Synthetic Polymer Sealant'. Am I missing something? Where do you get it? Thx
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