Deploy only 2 leveling jacks

[11snoopy11]

After reading all the different ways to solve a problem, sounds like 101 ways to cook chicken! LOL
Snoopy

[Ann-Marie]

OMG, I just trust the levelling system and it works every time.
I don't see how it could damage the frame - - one wheel can hit a pothole bigger than this at 60 mph and survive every time.
2018 Greyhawk Class C 30 ft

[Rob_M]

Originally Posted by Ann-Marie

OMG, I just trust the levelling system and it works every time.

I don't see how it could damage the frame - - one wheel can hit a pothole bigger than this at 60 mph and survive every time.

2018 Greyhawk Class C 30 ft

Maybe if you level manually, you can be closer to the ground.

[JBcap787]

wow…We are newbies with a 38 foot Thor Outlaw and never thought about this twisting syndrome too much. We have a residential fridge so I assumed that the need to level was so the slide outs do not have to struggle?? Am I wrong in thinking that? Thanks for your experienced help. JB

[NowGo]

Originally Posted by Gary.Jones

The answer to your questions is that you can definitely raise the front of the coach all by itself. In fact, I never "autolevel" as my system just doesn't seem able to perform the task correctly although I have had it adjusted twice. Just press the autolevel button and let the coach begin the process. The bags will deflate, and the four pads will come to hit the ground. As soon as my jacks touch the ground and the coach tries to autolevel, I turn off the Equalizer and then get out my trusty $4 foot-long plastic level from Lowes, place it on the first set of bare ceramic tiles and see how the bubble tells me I an sitting. If I need to raise the front, I use the down half of the top pair of manual buttons of the diamond pattern on the equalizer and raise until my level shows us level and then turn off the equalizer panel.

Letting the Equalizer lower the jacks until they touch the ground firmly is important as that puts them in contact with ground and raise hydraulic pressure in the jacks to equalize pressure on all 4 jacks. At that point, turn off Equalizer as you would notice that all your jacks do when trying to autolevel is force the chassis up (never down) but on many of our systems, it overshoots level and therefore must raise the opposite pair of jacks and so autolevel tends to "see-saw" you further and further up. So you prevent that from occurring by turning the Equalizer off after the jack pads touch ground and doing the leveling manually by raising front or back pairs together or side to side pairs together. I can get perfectly level in two rounds of self-adjusting.

On this Cornerstone, I also have "air over hydraulic" jack leveling so the air system also helps in making the coach level.

The important part is to let the hydraulic system let all 4 jacks touch ground and just begin trying to raise the coach to level. That is the time you turn the system off. Then turn system back on and now manually level using the buttons on the control panel. It only lets you raise or lower jacks in pairs, so there should be no "twist" of the chassis. Twist is what cracks windshields!!!!

Gary

Hi Gary,

I am back in Yuma again, same site as last year. The site we have is excellent from many perspectives (we are here for 4 months) but horrible for levelling. With the proper amount of blocks under the rear jacks (more on one site than the other) the coach will auto level perfectly. However, when level the left rear driver and tag are both a couple of inches off the ground. The right driver and tag are planted on the ground. I like your explanation and I cannot understand why the auto leveling insists on see-sawing the front up so much, requiring additional lift in the back.

I plan to try your method but I am a little nervous about being able to determine when all four jacks are firmly planted on the ground, but before the front starts its see-saw nonsense. Any advice on the timing for this, is there a slight delay after all four jacks have been planted down but before the see-saw business starts?

By the way, that front side to side levelling the auto level does seems to do a lot of frame twisting itself. I cannot for the life of me understand why the system is designed to do that.

[bevandtomH]

If you are sitting on gravel, ask them to re-level the site.
Asking politely goes a long way.
Seems like the least they can do for a longer term guest.

[NowGo]

Originally Posted by bevandtomH

If you are sitting on gravel, ask them to re-level the site.
Asking politely goes a long way.
Seems like the least they can do for a longer term guest.

Thanks for the reply bevandtomH,

The sites here are about 80 ft. long. They have dished the sites so they are sloped to the middle from both ends. Strange configuration, but I believe they are set up to drain to the middle (when it does eventually rain?). So, if setting up in the middle of the site you can travel fore and aft to find level, but I stay hooked up to my trailer so I need to move forward to fit the entire unit into the site, and there is also a slight side to side slope to the driver's side.

The gravel is very thin over what appears to be hard clay, not allowing extra material/gravel to do any levelling. Plus, there are a lot of other sites available, and this particular site may be the worst, but it is a huge corner site, and we really like it here.

So, I may be the architect of my own misery by wanting this site, but I do believe there should be a way to manage this. I came off the jacks early this morning and pulled the super slide in, as there is bad wind forecasted, so this is a good time for me to try adjusting my set up.

I am a licensed crane operator and I have set up cranes with blocking under outriggers to make some very heavy lifts, so I am thinking the jacks on good blocking should be just fine. I have also blocked enough under the jacks to minimize the rod extension, but the auto-leveling seems to insist on lifting the front of the coach more than necessary as it does its auto-levelling, resulting in the rear of the coach also having to be lifted to retain level.

[bevandtomH]

I know what you mean by favorite sites. I think we all do somewhere.

Had to laugh at the high winds comment, we may both be in the southwest. Our 10x10 team logged tent got destroyed in the overnight winds. Sun probably did the lions’ share over the years but the winds finished the job.lol.

[RayandWendy]

Yep, the biggest problem with the autolevel function is that will only adjust up. I've had many times where it made more sense to lower one side a little but it raises the other side a lot. I do like Gary and others do. Use auto level to dump the air bags only.
Later...
Ray

[LETMGROW]

Originally Posted by Rob_M

Maybe if you level manually, you can be closer to the ground.

If this was my coach or if I was in this position (Post #31) I'd have ramps or blocking under the front wheels.