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01-16-2021, 12:13 PM
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Diesel Gel
We have a 2019 Aspire. We are in Ohio where it’s going to get Dow to 10 degrees. If I had a anti Jel will that effect my Aquahot? TIA
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Larry & Vickie Carman
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01-16-2021, 12:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Armye7
We have a 2019 Aspire. We are in Ohio where it’s going to get Dow to 10 degrees. If I had a anti Jel will that effect my Aquahot? TIA
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No, in fact you will need it in order to be able to use it.
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01-16-2021, 12:29 PM
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Different diesel fuel is sold , depending on expected temps in the region , if you've filled the coach in the last three months in Ohio , you'll have winter dress diesel that should be good to below zero before needing additional gel protection.
Flip side is , if you had a half tank of fuel from July in AZ , you'll have to add anti-gel .
JMHO: My coach doesn't have aqua hot , but I'm thinking gelled diesel fuel would stop it cold , so adding wouldn't hurt.
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01-16-2021, 12:31 PM
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You don't need anti gell if you bought fuel in the cold north this winter.
Summer or southern fuel may need it.
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01-16-2021, 12:59 PM
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Buy Blended fuel. A little howes wouldn't hurt either.
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01-17-2021, 08:57 AM
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NEVER trust the fuel stations to have the right additive in their fuel for winter use. Always carry and use the anti-gel additives yourself to assure you don't have a very costly problem with the fuel. Too much anti-gel will not hurt your diesel.
Look closely at the directions of the anti-gel. If you're using bio-diesel (which is usually all you can find), you have to double the amount of product used
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01-17-2021, 10:11 AM
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Any chance the block heater also warms the fuel tank?
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01-17-2021, 10:18 AM
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I store my coach in Ohio every winter, I use anti-gel additive and never had a problem. Rather be safe than sorry....
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01-17-2021, 10:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KenZ71
Any chance the block heater also warms the fuel tank?
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Block heat is for the engine in the rear, fuel tank is in the front. The Aqua Hot is in the middle with no fuel heater. It's not worth taking the chance if it's going to get cold enough the gel diesel. It would be nice if the block heater would do that.
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01-17-2021, 05:56 PM
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The block heater has nothing to do with the fuel. Since your AquaHot feeds off the same fuel tank, then I would think that fuel gelling would be as much a problem for the AquaHot as it would be for your Cummins.
Others have commented about "winter diesel" up North. That is an important issue. In my commercial truck driving days many many years ago, we did not worry about fuel in PA, OH, and Michigan as our supplier always provided winterized diesel fuel to our terminal tanks. I try very hard to avoid any of those temperatures, but if I found myself facing a fuel gelling situation, I would be dumping in the good fuel gel.
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01-18-2021, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary.Jones
Others have commented about "winter diesel" up North. That is an important issue. In my commercial truck driving days many many years ago, we did not worry about fuel in PA, OH, and Michigan as our supplier always provided winterized diesel fuel to our terminal tanks.
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And that's OK for commercial drivers, since you'll do enough miles to work through everything in the tank in probably just a week or two.
But I know that I have no more than half a tank of winter diesel in my coach. The other half of my tank is from some combination of summer diesel and southern states (which may run summer diesel year-round). And actually, I last topped off my tank in either October or November. At that time, even NH might not have been running winter diesel.
Pretty sure that I'm going to end up keeping a box of anti-gel additive in the coach and just putting a bottle in with every fill-up regardless of where I am or what month it is. It doesn't do any harm and it's cheap insurance.
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01-18-2021, 10:32 AM
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Spoke with Aquahot this morning and they said do not add anything. They said the anti-Jel will change the particulars of the diesel fuel and cause the nozzle to clog and fail. Has anyone else heard of this? Chris at Entegra says it’s ok to add but Aquahot says not to add. Looks like temps lows will be in the mid 20s and highs will be in the 30s. Not sure what to do now.
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01-18-2021, 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KenZ71
Any chance the block heater also warms the fuel tank?
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Nope, it does not..
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01-18-2021, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Armye7
Looks like temps lows will be in the mid 20s and highs will be in the 30s. Not sure what to do now.
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If You have filled locally in the last month or so... with those expected temps, I would not worry.. gets down into the teens may be a different skunk to deal with..
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