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Old 01-20-2023, 10:14 AM   #1
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Entegra Cornerstone Passive Steering

I am looking at purchasing a preowned Cornerstone, and would like to know what year they first came out with the "passive steer" feature, where the tag axle turned to assist in sharper turns for the driver. I've been told it was anywhere from 2016 to 2018 models. Thank you for your help.

How is Entegra themselves at assisting Entegra owners when you need questions answered? I've left them messages and don't get a call back. I trust you owners rather than the sales reps at RV dealerships.

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Old 01-20-2023, 11:05 AM   #2
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According to Cruzer the expert on MH improvements, found in the search function, the 2017. https://www.irv2.com/forums/f278/201...es-278269.html
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Old 01-20-2023, 12:06 PM   #3
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Cornerstone Passive Steering

Thanks Brobox 2017 is what Indoor RV in Lewisville told me.
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Old 01-20-2023, 12:25 PM   #4
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Is it true guys that after the first three or four years, a CS only comes down about $10,000 in price?
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If you look at the used coach ads, you’ll see that it is two or three times that much.
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Is it true guys that after the first three or four years, a CS only comes down about $10,000 in price?
Because of a very unique set of circumstances, Covid and a strong economy, there are a few lucky souls that that happened to but I wouldn’t expect to see it ever again. Since no one can see the future, only time will tell.
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That price reduction would be very rare.... Usually more depreciation. The COVID rush to buy coaches drove up the resale price of lots of things but that is not usual and normal.

"Google" Used RV sales webpages and you will quickly see typical dealer and owner asking prices.

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Every RV and especially motorhomes that are for sale should all have a huge red sign on them stating "This is not an investment, it will cost you to operate, maintain, and it will depreciate beyond your wildest dreams".
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Confirmed on 2017 being the first year with tag axel steer.
I parked my 17 CS next to a 16 a few years ago.
17 had steer tag and 16 did not.

I do not consider that much of a benefit though.

I agree that Covid market changed depreciation norms. That all seems be be slowly returning to more normal depreciation now though.
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Confirmed on 2017 being the first year with tag axel steer.
I parked my 17 CS next to a 16 a few years ago.
17 had steer tag and 16 did not.

I do not consider that much of a benefit though.

I agree that Covid market changed depreciation norms. That all seems be be slowly returning to more normal depreciation now though.
If it was not for the tight hanger area I store in and now being able to back in the first try, I would agree. My Classic took a couple of back and forth a few feet to do what the steerable tag does for straight in parking. Outside of that, I would never know it is back there, but it is nice in tight situations.
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I would consider $30k a year in value loss per year
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$30,000 a year??? You cannot be serious . I see new cornerstonesisting for around $900,00 but offered around $630,000. Can probably be bought for $600,000. If my math is close you are saying that after one year it would be worth between $570,00 and $600,000. 10% off would be closer to the facts. No one would buy a one year old and only save $30,000. First year depreciation can be brutal.
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First year depreciation of motorcoaches (in a normal year) IS completely brutal. Look at the resale web sites for coaches and see the current situation. Or call, a dealer (NIRVC) and talk to them about depreciation. They will give you an honest answer. Except for the COVID mass purchase of coaches where you could almost get 100% of your money back after a year or two, depreciation is a real issue. You don't buy a motorcoach as a financial investment.... you are always going to lose money and then it is just a matter of how brutal the loss is going to be.

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30K a year is a reasonable estimate AFTER the first two years. During year one the loss is closer to 100K. Yaer two is less, but more than subsequent years.
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