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G&J · 03-20-2016, 11:20 AM

Hi Gary
I'm so glad that other people admin they have the same problems, as I was starting to think I was on a one man crusade. I have already ordered the new replacement equipment for the BOSE system and I will be installing this shortly after my return with full video details. A short term fix to some of your problems is as follows:

On the equipment behind the fireplace flap you will see small red plastic diodes which are the IP repeaters. you will need to pry these off as these have been stuck in the wrong place (which is why they don't work very well) Then shine the light of a fairly powerful torch into the plastic front cover and you should see clearly the sensor for the IR. I think the sensor for the BOSE is on the far left about mid point and for DVD about half way up under one of the buttons (it's trial & error with the DVD player as it doesn't have a display). These IR repeater do not work very well with the flap open as so either cover the back of the sensor with foil tape or insulating tape (the part that faces you as you look at it) or keep the door closed. This will at least make the remote work properly.
I think what peevs me the most about this sort of thing is that we are sold this "attention to detail" story and this is just one example where little or no thought at all has been given to this area. Wouldn't you have thought that someone would have tested this sort of thing thoroughly? After all it's not rocket science. Why couldn't someone at least sick the IR transmitters in the right place, it really is slap dash!

When I get my system sorted I'll publish for all to see, then we should all ask Joyce for the reimbursement cost of a system that works

Glenn

MRUSA14 · 03-20-2016, 11:53 AM

As for the outside TV, I keep mine unplugged at all times unless I am watching it. That way it cannot turn on by mistake, and even when off, it still draws some power which is not something you want when running off batteries.

DebbieMH · 03-20-2016, 12:54 PM

Glenn and Gary,
Your discussion on the TV IR thing is very interesting. Our main TV went Poof three weeks ago ...why, who knows .... Entegra did allow us to go to Best Buy and purchase a Samsung replacement and JR from NIRVC hooked it up for us at March fest. Long story, I know ... but we have had a time getting the remote to work and we thought it was just us. Prior - we always kept the front open and it would work. JR put the diode thingy on the receiver and we were able to use the remote with the door closed ... for a couple days. Now, we are back at having a heck of a time with even the door open. I think we are going to remove the diode and see if we can at least get back to where we were! So, Glenn and Gary ... do you have the red diode thingy actually attached anywhere? Thanks, Lynn

loisjop · 03-20-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DebbieMH

Glenn and Gary,
Your discussion on the TV IR thing is very interesting. Our main TV went Poof three weeks ago ...why, who knows .... Entegra did allow us to go to Best Buy and purchase a Samsung replacement and JR from NIRVC hooked it up for us at March fest. Long story, I know ... but we have had a time getting the remote to work and we thought it was just us. Prior - we always kept the front open and it would work. JR put the diode thingy on the receiver and we were able to use the remote with the door closed ... for a couple days. Now, we are back at having a heck of a time with even the door open. I think we are going to remove the diode and see if we can at least get back to where we were! So, Glenn and Gary ... do you have the red diode thingy actually attached anywhere? Thanks, Lynn

Lynn, I had to move "the little diode thingy" On our dvr to get it to work. I would move it around on your receiver and see if that doesn't solve your problem. I have our direct tv remote set up on RF so I don't mess with IR on the receiver. Noel

G&J · 03-20-2016, 04:12 PM

The IR system does work correctly IF the diodes are in the correct place. The BOSE system is easy as you can see where the receivers diode is through the plastic display. The DVD player is tricky as you have to keep moving it whilst pressing the remote until you find the sweet spot. You will need to either cover the back of the diodes or close the flap. If you can't sort this out I'll be back in a couple of weeks and can take some pictures for you of the position of the diodes.

G

DebbieMH · 03-20-2016, 04:17 PM

Thanks Noel and Glenn ... we will be back at the MH tomorrow morning. I'll try moving it around some.

JohnBoyToo · 03-20-2016, 09:30 PM

A simple solution to the no lights issue on the dvd might be to just buy a new 4k bluray player ?

While I have the opposite issue at home with too many blu lights staring back at me in the media room - I fixed it with black electrical tape on most of them !!!

even 3D is available in the $150 range from Sony...
or $175 for 3d and media storage!

Our 4k 70" at home with 4k netflix looks stunning... even regular dvd's looks great with the upscaling.

G&J · 03-21-2016, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnBoyToo

A simple solution to the no lights issue on the dvd might be to just buy a new 4k bluray player ?

While I have the opposite issue at home with too many blu lights staring back at me in the media room - I fixed it with black electrical tape on most of them !!!

even 3D is available in the $150 range from Sony...
or $175 for 3d and media storage!

Our 4k 70" at home with 4k netflix looks stunning... even regular dvd's looks great with the upscaling.

I think you will find that there is only one UHD 4K DVD player available on the market at the moment which is made by Samsung: Samsung UBD-K8500 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player which is in the region of $400. The rest are all upscaling. So if you think your picture is good now wait till you see true UHD 4K. Mind blowing !

There are several other makes hitting the market every month now so soon you will have your choice.

G

Gary.Jones · 03-21-2016, 09:15 AM

Glenn

I took the opportunity yesterday to read through a bunch of reviews about 4K televisions and the consistent opinion of my reviewers who have examined them is that there is very little improvement, some say virtually no noticeable improvement, on 4K televisions at this point on the currently available television signals. Now, my understanding is that if you can find a 4K DVD and a 4K movie actually filmed to take advantage of the 4K format, then you see some incremental improvement, but for the current state of the art, all of the reviewers that I read said that there was very little improvement to be seen.

Maybe I am reading old reviews and current status has changed.

Gary

Nowabeachbum · 03-21-2016, 10:56 AM

Here's my problem with 4K tv. The older I get, the worse my eyesight, so now my vision is down to "720p" but the tv's are now at 4K! It's all just wasted on me!!

JohnBoyToo · 03-21-2016, 12:30 PM

Gary,
you may be right in that it's probably not worthwhile just to replace, but to wait until you MUST replace as I did...
Our Master BR tv went out and so the 'small' 60" Main tv went to MBR and the new 70" went in it's place...

And so I guess I did buy the bluray prematurely as now that I look closer my sony IS upscaling to 4k :(

DebbieMH · 03-21-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nowabeachbum

Here's my problem with 4K tv. The older I get, the worse my eyesight, so now my vision is down to "720p" but the tv's are now at 4K! It's all just wasted on me!!

X2

G&J · 03-22-2016, 02:45 AM

Hi Gary
I think that the best way to understand 4K is to go to a good outlet (even Best Buy) that have a working display of 4K. A 4K TV has 4 times the pixels than a standard HD TV and the ONLY way you will get any benefit from enjoying your 4K TV is to watch 4K content. 4K is referred to now as UHD (Ultra High Definition) and the difference in what you see is incredible. So for those who say they can't really see any different are obviously not watching true UHD 4K. Now in time to come there will be a lot more broadcast in 4K and 4K DVD (of which there are currently only a handful of titles) will become common place.
Just think back to when CD's first arrived on the scene, people who didn't have one (or probably could't afford one) all said "there's no difference between a record & a cd, they sound the same" And the only CD available (in the UK) was Dire Straights.

So it's all a matter of choice, I have always been one that wants the best I can afford and also one that "if it's installed, then it's got to work and work properly.

Glenn

MRUSA14 · 03-22-2016, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by G&J

Hi Gary
A 4K TV has 4 times the pixels than a standard HD TV and the ONLY way you will get any benefit from enjoying your 4K TV is to watch 4K content.

I disagree with that statement. Between my RV and my two stick homes, I own more than a dozen HD TVs and one 4K TV. The 4K has a noticeably better and sharper picture using the exact same non-4K signal source (DirecTV). I was not expecting this when I bought the 4K. I thought that I was only future-proofing my purchase, but I was surprised at how much better the picture is, even with regular HD content. This is because all 4K TVs have built-in upscaling that converts the HD picture to quasi-4K. Upscaling really works! I find myself going to the 4K room to watch rather than using another of the TVs. Obviously a true 4K source would look even better, but 4K TVs have benefits even without 4K content.