Equalizer Auto level twice - after settling ?

[NowGo]

I have been on a concrete pad site for a little over two weeks. When I pulled onto the site I was dead level on the air bags, and dead level after I set the Equalizer auto level. Checking this morning I am down on one side, still level fore and aft.

As I understand it I can manually re-level, but as the auto level has always seemed to work so well can I just turn on the equalizer system and tell it to auto level itself again? I would do this with the bags still deflated and all the slides out.

Or... in order to auto-level do I need to fire up to fill the air bags, retract the jacks, then auto-level again?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

[Bobby Dowdle]

You have a leak in the jack system or a solenoid on the manifold is leaking by. Take it to your selling dealer or any NIRVC service center for diagnosis and assistance with this issue.

[NowGo]

Originally Posted by Bobby Dowdle

You have a leak in the jack system or a solenoid on the manifold is leaking by. Take it to your selling dealer or any NIRVC service center for diagnosis and assistance with this issue.

Through my research on irv2 I have learned of the potential solenoid leak issues. I do not believe I have any leaks in the system.

I will not be leaving my location to go to NIRVC for diagnosis and assistance, I simply want to re-level the coach.

I am hoping to get answers to my original question.

[Gary.Jones]

NowGo

If it is your jacks, then you should be able to simply turn on the Equalizer panel on the dash, and then use the up/down buttons to bring the coach back to level. You don't say which side is "down", but if its the driver side, then use the bottom of the up/down buttons on the left side of the diamond Equalizer panel to simply lower (down button to raise the side) both jacks on the driver side. If you are low on the passenger side, then use the bottom button on the right side to lift that side up to level. You can adjust it with the Cummins off. Just turn on the panel and press the correct button.

Unlike your coach, my Equalizer has virtually never leveled my coach well, and I gave up on it doing an adequate job a long time ago, and that is after the system had been worked on two or maybe even three times under warranty. So I just let the Equalizer put the four jacks down to the ground and the air to bleed off, then I turn the panel off. Then I put a red plastic level on a horizontal (level) tile and see what needs to come up to level: driver or passenger side, or front or back or a combination of both and then I use the up/down buttons on the panel to bring the coach to level using the plastic level as my guide. I can do it quickly.

For your question, you can do it simply by using your up/down buttons, or firing up the Cummins and coming up to ride height, then auto level again. Doing it manually is MUCH EASIER and quicker. Your choice!

Now if your hydraulic lines or manifold (near your driver-side tire) are leaking or just not holding the fluid constant pressure/level, then you have a problem that needs to be fixed also.

Gary

[brobox]

If you have one wheel low, raise with the single button
No need to to anything else. If it drops again, then there is a problem as to why.

[Gary.Jones]

To my knowledge, you can't change one jack.... only pairs of jacks (left side pair, right side pair, front pair, or back pair). Operating jacks independently would tend to torque the chassis which is what cracks windshields.

Gary

[NowGo]

Originally Posted by Gary.Jones

NowGo

If it is your jacks, then you should be able to simply turn on the Equalizer panel on the dash, and then use the up/down buttons to bring the coach back to level. You don't say which side is "down", but if its the driver side, then use the bottom of the up/down buttons on the left side of the diamond Equalizer panel to simply lower (down button to raise the side) both jacks on the driver side. If you are low on the passenger side, then use the bottom button on the right side to lift that side up to level. You can adjust it with the Cummins off. Just turn on the panel and press the correct button.

Unlike your coach, my Equalizer has virtually never leveled my coach well, and I gave up on it doing an adequate job a long time ago, and that is after the system had been worked on two or maybe even three times under warranty. So I just let the Equalizer put the four jacks down to the ground and the air to bleed off, then I turn the panel off. Then I put a red plastic level on a horizontal (level) tile and see what needs to come up to level: driver or passenger side, or front or back or a combination of both and then I use the up/down buttons on the panel to bring the coach to level using the plastic level as my guide. I can do it quickly.

For your question, you can do it simply by using your up/down buttons, or firing up the Cummins and coming up to ride height, then auto level again. Doing it manually is MUCH EASIER and quicker. Your choice!

Now if your hydraulic lines or manifold (near your driver-side tire) are leaking or just not holding the fluid constant pressure/level, then you have a problem that needs to be fixed also.

Gary

Gary,

I think you're saying if I want to use the Equalizer auto-level function it will require the full procedure - start the engine to come up to ride height, retract jacks, then shut off engine and tell Equalizer to re-level over again?

I totally agree that manually leveling would be far easier than this, but I am hoping the Equalizer system is "smart" enough to re-level if I simply turn it on and tell it to auto-level (without starting the engine and going through the whole retract and deploy process)

My system does such a darn good job of auto-levelling...

Thanks Gary.

[Gary.Jones]

Well, give it a try. My guess is that a hydraulic-only system like I think is on your coach won't be able to do anything good on autolevel the second time, but I have never tried that. My 2 cent bet is that you need to fire up the Cummins, come to ride height, and then auto-level again.

Either way, I don't think that you will hurt anything. I'd give it a try and see what happens. Report back.

On my Cornerstone, I have "air over hydraulics" so the air leveling will try to deal with any non-level situation on its own automatically.

Gary

[RayandWendy]

You don't have to start up, but you do have to fully retract the jacks for the auto level to be able to run again.
Later...
Ray

[NowGo]

Originally Posted by RayandWendy

You don't have to start up, but you do have to fully retract the jacks for the auto level to be able to run again.
Later...
Ray

Ray was right. Turned on Equalizer without retracting jacks, tried the Auto Level, no go.

I didn't want to retract the jacks without full air in system to allow the bags to return to ride height, then go through auto level as part of its full cycle.

So I used the manual method as Gary suggested and manually levelled, very quick.

I have no problem with manually levelling. I have had other coaches with different mechanisms for auto levelling and find it not unusual to have to tweak after sitting awhile in one place.

Thanks to all

[brobox]

Originally Posted by NowGo

Ray was right. Turned on Equalizer without retracting jacks, tried the Auto Level, no go.

I didn't want to retract the jacks without full air in system to allow the bags to return to ride height, then go through auto level as part of its full cycle.

So I used the manual method as Gary suggested and manually levelled, very quick.

I have no problem with manually levelling. I have had other coaches with different mechanisms for auto levelling and find it not unusual to have to tweak after sitting awhile in one place.

Thanks to all

All is good if it doesn't settle again. A 14 coach can have parts starting to wear.

[Tim Fox]

Agree with Ray. Just retract jacks and then hit auto level. No need to air up.

[High2]

We primarily use air level only. The system routinely rechecks for level and re-levels as necessary. Appears to work well even though at times, "excess slope" appears at first.

As for checking level, use the mid-bath door and/or microwave door as an indicator. Alternatively a real level or phone app, "Bubble Level", works well.

Safe travels.