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09-14-2020, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by buddy110
Just close the door to the shower room?
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There you go Bruce - proposing a simple solution to an extermely complex problem!
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09-14-2020, 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LWBAZ
There you go Bruce - proposing a simple solution to an extermely complex problem!
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You calling me a simpleton?
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09-14-2020, 03:26 PM
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Very similar to my Horizon's floor plan.
The full slide is on the other side
The 42Q full slide and the other slides are all 30 inches wide,
Looks like this the Entegra full slide might be 20 inches. I’m not sure.
I love it. Very nice.
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09-14-2020, 03:38 PM
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I think the new Z floor plan is a reversal of the F with big slide on drivers side like the W was a reversal of the A.
Also I don’t understand the talk about bathroom smelling bad. When I go it always smells like roses or sometimes lilacs.😳😳😳
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09-14-2020, 03:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollin101
I think the new Z floor plan is a reversal of the F with big slide on drivers side like the W was a reversal of the A.
Also I don’t understand the talk about bathroom smelling bad. When I go it always smells like roses or sometimes lilacs.😳😳😳
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Petunias here
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09-14-2020, 04:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollin101
I think the new Z floor plan is a reversal of the F with big slide on drivers side like the W was a reversal of the A.
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You're right about the A and the W being pretty much a mirror image of each other from front to back.
Regarding the F and the Z, the living/galley area is flip-flopped, but the reversals end there.
Other observations:
- The F is a bath & a half plan; the Z is a single bath plan.
- The F has opposing sofas in the living area, the Z does not.
_ The F has significantly less galley counter space than the Z.
- Both plans have bed on the driver's side (not reversed).
- Same thing with the aft walk-in closet - it's identical in the two plans.
Interestingly, the Entegra F plan is a near carbon copy of Tiffin's very successful 45-OPP plan.
Entegra F and Z plans included below, with F first.
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09-14-2020, 04:44 PM
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And here is a comparison of Entegra's F plan versus Tiffin's 45-OPP plan.
The half-bath sink in Tiffin's 45-OPP plan used to be just as inaccessible as the one in Entegra's F plan. Looking at these 2021 floor plan diagrams, it appears Tiffin has addressed that shortcoming to some degree. What both companies need to do is move the sink closer to the half-bath entry door like it is in Entegra's W plan.
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09-20-2020, 04:16 PM
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It looks as if there might be gymnastics involved (crawling under the table) in accessing the fridge if the slides are in, unless (perhaps) one chose the reclining sofa option? This is my only complaint with our Grand Design Solitude 344GK.
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09-20-2020, 04:31 PM
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Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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I agree Todd and the folks in Atlanta are really great. When it’s time to buy another Entegra they’ll get our business. BTW we love our DEQ a bigger shower would be nice however.
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09-20-2020, 05:37 PM
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Location: ohio
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Picking up our anthem Z in about 2 weeks. Going from an aspire 42 DEQ. Can't wait to get it.
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09-20-2020, 08:48 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LWBAZ
And here is a comparison of Entegra's F plan versus Tiffin's 45-OPP plan.
The half-bath sink in Tiffin's 45-OPP plan used to be just as inaccessible as the one in Entegra's F plan. Looking at these 2021 floor plan diagrams, it appears Tiffin has addressed that shortcoming to some degree. What both companies need to do is move the sink closer to the half-bath entry door like it is in Entegra's W plan.
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The floor plan diagram is deceptive about the half bath sink. I have no problem with it and if it were closer to the door it would impede access to the toilet and make sitting less comfortable. Best the way it is.
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09-21-2020, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Butte64
The floor plan diagram is deceptive about the half bath sink. I have no problem with it and if it were closer to the door it would impede access to the toilet and make sitting less comfortable. Best the way it is.
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Could be, Jerry. But the W plan has the sink closer to the half-bath entry door and has been that way since the introduction of the W plan. See diagrams of the F and W plans below.
Entegra has sold a lot of coaches with the W plan and I can't recall seeing a single complaint from any owner regarding the half-bath sink impeding access to the toilet. Amy & I have been inside a number of coaches with the W plan and the half bath seemed quite usable to us.
Just my two cents - not suggesting everyone else should or would agree.
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09-22-2020, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LWBAZ
Could be, Jerry. But the W plan has the sink closer to the half-bath entry door and has been that way since the introduction of the W plan. See diagrams of the F and W plans below.
Entegra has sold a lot of coaches with the W plan and I can't recall seeing a single complaint from any owner regarding the half-bath sink impeding access to the toilet. Amy & I have been inside a number of coaches with the W plan and the half bath seemed quite usable to us.
Just my two cents - not suggesting everyone else should or would agree.
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Guess where I was sitting when I read your post?
It is quite comfortable this way. In the W my right knee would be banging the sink and my elbows would be constrained. Access to the sink in the F is easy and does not require a 90 degree turn to fully use.
It is something best tried, not just look at it and if I were only 5 ft tall and 110 lb it would not be noticeable. To each their own and not the most important factor in floor plan decision, just wanted others to know both viewpoints.
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09-22-2020, 07:26 AM
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Entegra Owners Club
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Location: Heathrow, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRUSA14
The X is my absolute favorite. It not only has the attributes stated above, but the living-dining room area is the largest of all the Entegras. Anybody have a used one you would like to sell?
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I have a ‘19 X and would never want a different floor plan. It is truly spacious......where I need it, the salon. It’s where we spend our time. The mid bath gives a buffer between the bedroom and living area when dueling TV stations are needed. The single non-macerator toilet drops right into the tank, so, no headaches. And the wife and I have never wished we had another toilet to clean!
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