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07-08-2018, 02:33 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SW FL
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Originally Posted by Fattman-Litlboy
I just had Spartan do it for me during annual maintenance. Easy, and cheap.
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I agree, it is not a job worth saving a $100. unless it is harder to get your coach to a shop than DIY. If I was at Spartan, I would have them do it too.
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Chuck in SW FL
Digital 2021 Cornerstone "B"
A "Digital" 2019 Cornerstone "B" Traded
A "Classic" 2014 Anthem 42 RBQ---Sold
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07-08-2018, 08:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Port Orchard, WA
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Shock Comparison Picture
Here is a picture of the shock differences.
My buddy and I went out and changed them.
Bought a 1/2" Kobalt Cordless impact driver (The bigger one 650 ft #'s of torque) worked like a dream. Had both changed out in 20 minutes.
Cost me $200 for the Driver but I'm sure I'll get more use out of it in the garage.
The test drive down the freeway with known bumps was a noticeable difference. Bumps were smoother with no rebound.
The other thing I noticed was less rocking and it drove straighter with less steering corrections, probably because of the increased side to side stability.
Anyway, very pleased with the upgrade.
Going from Gig Harbor to Sand Point ID next weekend.
Going over I-90 will be the real test. Thats a really bad freeway.
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Kevin, Caroline and IZZY
-2018 Entegra Aspire 44B, 2013 Ford C-Max (Toad), 2017 CanAm Maverick X3 XRS
-2004 Tiffin Phaeton QDH40 (Sold)
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07-09-2018, 05:20 AM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SW FL
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Thnaks for the photo Kevin. Side by side those look like the same puny Bilsteins that caused all the problems with my Classic. If the new Aspires are pushing 17,000 lbs on the front Axel, but still using the smaller 46mm shocks, from my experience, under shocked and will cause the porpoising problems that are being reported.
Others didn't believe me when I said the wheel play was gone...glad you experience the same results.
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Chuck in SW FL
Digital 2021 Cornerstone "B"
A "Digital" 2019 Cornerstone "B" Traded
A "Classic" 2014 Anthem 42 RBQ---Sold
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07-13-2018, 09:51 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Port Orchard, WA
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Update
WOW!
What a difference compared to the stock shocks.
We just drove from Gig Harbor to the Stoneridge RV Resort in ID (staying until Sunday if you're here) the drive was a lot nicer
especially if you have an Aspire and want it to feel like a Cornerstone then this should be the first upgrade you do period.
It even climbs the Mountain pass like it has 605HP...... Just kidding.
Seriously big difference in smoothness, handling and NO MORE BOUNCING!
Great Investment.
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Kevin, Caroline and IZZY
-2018 Entegra Aspire 44B, 2013 Ford C-Max (Toad), 2017 CanAm Maverick X3 XRS
-2004 Tiffin Phaeton QDH40 (Sold)
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07-13-2018, 10:28 AM
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Senior Member
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Memphis, TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brobox
Thnaks for the photo Kevin. Side by side those look like the same puny Bilsteins that caused all the problems with my Classic. If the new Aspires are pushing 17,000 lbs on the front Axel, but still using the smaller 46mm shocks, from my experience, under shocked and will cause the porpoising problems that are being reported.
Others didn't believe me when I said the wheel play was gone...glad you experience the same results.
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Chuck,
It doesn’t seem like it from the numbers, but the 60mm are 70% larger than the 46mm, so they’re much beefier with significantly more dampening power. (The surface area of the piston goes up as the square of the radius.) That’s why I have no problems with my 17 Anthem, the year Entegra switched to 60s on the Anthem. The Aspires should also be on 60s, so the larger Konis make a big difference.
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Bill & Lynne
Memphis, TN
2017 Entegra Anthem 44B - Victory Blue
2016 Ford Edge Titanium
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07-13-2018, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Off the road after 14 years full timing
Posts: 1,101
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When I asked Spartan for a price for Konis for my 2015 Aspire, they told me they didn’t sell them for a solid axle coach. Since I will be in Charlotte in 2 weeks, is there another larger dia shock sold by Spartan that would work better than the old Bilsteins I currently have? I can always gets Konis at some later time, but since I am at Spartan anyway...
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07-13-2018, 03:35 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
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Location: SW FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnontheroad
When I asked Spartan for a price for Konis for my 2015 Aspire, they told me they didn’t sell them for a solid axle coach. Since I will be in Charlotte in 2 weeks, is there another larger dia shock sold by Spartan that would work better than the old Bilsteins I currently have? I can always gets Konis at some later time, but since I am at Spartan anyway...
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Read though this post towards the end or search for other posts and you will find the part number for the 15 Aspires. Or you can call the posted link for RVsupply for the correct number http://www.irv2.com/forums/f278/koni...ng-297539.html
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Chuck in SW FL
Digital 2021 Cornerstone "B"
A "Digital" 2019 Cornerstone "B" Traded
A "Classic" 2014 Anthem 42 RBQ---Sold
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07-13-2018, 06:23 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Las Colinas, Texas
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I would order the Koni's, take em' with you, and have Spartan install them. Makes no sense why they don't sell them. They are available.
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Mark & Debra Wood, Las Colinas, TX.
2013 Entegra Aspire 42RBQ
2023 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4XE
2013 Thor Challenger 37DT - Sold
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07-13-2018, 06:29 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Las Colinas, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinantholt
Here is a picture of the shock differences.
My buddy and I went out and changed them.
Bought a 1/2" Kobalt Cordless impact driver (The bigger one 650 ft #'s of torque) worked like a dream. .
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Will that Kobalt get a tire lug loose? I watched the tire dealer use the very large air wrench to remove my front lugs, and used the same to get the shock bolts loose. Seems like it was more difficult to get the shock bolts loose?
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Mark & Debra Wood, Las Colinas, TX.
2013 Entegra Aspire 42RBQ
2023 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4XE
2013 Thor Challenger 37DT - Sold
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