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08-17-2021, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Highland NY
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Originally Posted by Motorhead-54
So I think that if you take the time when laying out your drain to create the equivalent of a “p trap” in the drain line, you’d be ok leaving the valve open. The water in the p trap would prevent the smell and gnats from the sewer from getting back to the coach. Personally I don’t mind venturing out to the wet bay every couple of days to do the dump deed and at the same time check on things in general inside the wet bay. Silly freshwater connections always seem to drip and need an extra tweak.
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There's almost a natural P trap formed in the macerator hose when you set it up right. That said Sewer gnats are not something I want to confront.
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2018 Anthem, Victory Blue Sold, 2019 Ram Laramie 1500
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08-17-2021, 05:00 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Niceville, Florida
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Originally Posted by buddy110
There's almost a natural P trap formed in the macerator hose when you set it up right. That said Sewer gnats are not something I want to confront.
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All it takes is a one time experience of sitting on the pot and having gnats swarm your or your spouse’s backside. 😳
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08-17-2021, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Originally Posted by Rev. Roy
I can answer this with 2 words, "Sewer Flies". Once I had to deal with them I learned quickly to keep the valves closed.
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Same here. Unless you create a loop in your sewer hose that will trap water (Like a plumbing trap) and block the critters from visiting your coach.
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2013 Entegra Anthem 44SL
2018 Lincoln MKX
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08-18-2021, 08:40 AM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis RV Trip Wizard
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Webster, FL
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Originally Posted by FLYING BUTCH
2020 Anthem. It’s a hassle to go drain Gray water every two days. On my old coach we just left gray water valve open. Can’t we do that with the system on these coaches?
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We have a 2021 CS B with a macerator.
We were planning on leaving early the next morning so we emptied our black and then grey tanks. We wanted to do a load of laundry so we left the grey tank button on with the macerator off so we could have the grey water drain until the wash was finished. After when we went out to turn off the grey tank button and it was quite warm to the touch.
Perhaps this wasn't a great idea?
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2021 Entegra Cornerstone 45B
2020 Chevy Silverado, Blue Ox, SMI AF One
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08-18-2021, 09:06 AM
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Location: Louisiana
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My gray and blank tank spade valves are operated by an electric solenoid that lifts the handle up too open the valve (to dump) and magnetically pulls the handle down to close the valve (to stop dumping). To keep the spade valve continuously open for days or months then must keep electricity applied to that solenoid for the entire time (that is my understanding). So, the solenoid and the switch might likely get warm.
The bypass valve (a separate valve that you operate manually) is a passive device that has to be operated manually and can stay in whatever position you put it in for long periods of time. That is why I have said several times that the proper way to avoid going outside is either run a second switch inside or use the bypass valve and use a stinky slinky sewer pipe to dump.... not the macerator.
Gary
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2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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08-19-2021, 08:02 AM
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Valve
For me it is much easer to leave gray valve open and not have to worry about needing to dump before taking a shower or doing a load of wash. When needing to dump black tank just shut the gray valve until some gray water builds up, to flush out black sewage. I don’t believe I have a San I con system as I did in my Beavers. I called Entergra and they told me no problem in doing what I have done in past. I left gray valve open yesterday and only problem was inside Vega didn’t show empty gray but outside did. Couldn’t be any easer, for me ar least.
Safe travels all
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08-19-2021, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Louisiana
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If you don't have a Sanicon on your coach, then this discussion was unnecessary. You are apparently using a stinky slinky which is what many of us have been suggesting you do anyhow.
The point/issue was about leaving a Sanicon system valve open all the time.
Oh well..............
Gary
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2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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08-21-2021, 07:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Loudon Tn
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Valve
I do have the San I com system and that is what I am using! I left the valve open and it works just as it did on my other coaches. When I get ready to dump the black tank I will shut the gray valve to build up a little pressure to flush the black hose out.
Safe travels all
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08-21-2021, 08:46 AM
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Monaco Owners Club Solo Rvers Club Coastal Campers
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Have a SaniCon. Leave the gray tank open when at FHU site, and connect the small hose. Use the black tank flush when that tank needs emptied. Don’t have to worry about shower or washing machine backing up into the shower like it would if the gray tank valve was closed. Before leaving - run 20-30 gallons into the gray tank with a little simple green. Next time draining it, looks pretty clean thru the clear elbow.
That’s how we do it.
Did remove the SaniCon once to replace the impeller and clean the shaft. If someone is getting $1,200 in labor alone for doing that, I’m in the wrong business. 2 hours tops including removing (unscrewing) the wall.
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08-21-2021, 11:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Louisiana
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The great thing about RVing, is that we all are free to solve our problems and situations any way we want, and then accept the consequences for our decisions .....
May I never read any requests for help with a stuck gray water valve or bugs "up the butt" (toilet) ever again.... --
Gary
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2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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