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Old 06-25-2014, 07:46 PM   #1
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Load shedding EMS

I used to have a load shedding Electricity Management System (EMS) on my Monaco coach. My new 2014 Anthem doesn't have one. I am considering having one put in because I liked the feature when hooked to 30 amps.

Does anyone have any preferences or experience with an EMS for our Entegras? I'm considering:

1) Precision Circuits Inc
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2) Xantrex Freedom Sequence
Freedom Sequence Intelligent Power Manager (EMS)

3) Other???

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Load shedding EMS

Well, I'm thinking your 2014 Anthem has Magnum inverters..... Right?
If so it says the precision circuits EMS is designed to work with Magnum inverters.....so I would pick this one. The other EMS says it works with Xantrex inverters.
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Reading the Xanterx model info, it requires their electrical management and AGS system, that would be a lot of changing. Entegra is installing a load shedding system on the 2015. Might be worth checking if that can be added 2014. Let us know if you check with Entegra and what they say.
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Given the location of the breaker panels on the Entegras (over the driver's side window), I don't see how you could possibly find room for a retrofit load-shedding EMS.
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Why would one be needed? Just a question. I am new to Class A motorhomes but we were recently camping and ran all AC's on high, the washer dryer on, the microwave on and the aquahot electric was on as well all at the same time just to test everything and there was no problems at all. So why a need for a power management system? Again, just a question.
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Why would one be needed? Just a question. I am new to Class A motorhomes but we were recently camping and ran all AC's on high, the washer dryer on, the microwave on and the aquahot electric was on as well all at the same time just to test everything and there was no problems at all. So why a need for a power management system? Again, just a question.

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Try that with a a 30 amp service! You will find out quickly..
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Yes, I miss having the load shedding EMS we had on our 2006 Fleetwood too.

They are including them on the new Entegra's now as per a lot of us bemoaning that omission.

However, given the very few places we've stayed at with only 30A, for us I don't feel it's worth the effort to add one. In 30A situations we "self-EMS" and are just careful about what we run. We set the charger limit to 5A for example and only let one AC unit run if needed. Haven't popped the power pole breaker yet, but it will probably happen someday.

I've been thinking that there may be another approach to this issue using a "hybrid" inverter such as Magnum's MSH series. It combines Inverter (battery) power with shore power when needed essentially giving the same result (I think).

I have not thought it thru fully or researched the AC circuit reconfiguration requirements so it also may be a daunting retrofit, but food for thought.

Good luck!

PS for those of you new to the shore power nomenclature;
30A means 30A at 120 volts
50A means 50A at 240 volts OR 100A at 120 volts.
50A connections therefore have a 70Amp benefit over 30A in terms of the 120 volt power used by our coaches
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I've been thinking that there may be another approach to this issue using a "hybrid" inverter such as Magnum's MSH series. It combines Inverter (battery) power with shore power when needed essentially giving the same result (I think).
Did you ever see one of these ?
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Not sure why they did't catch on, expense I suppose
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Reading the Xanterx model info, it requires their electrical management and AGS system, that would be a lot of changing. Entegra is installing a load shedding system on the 2015. Might be worth checking if that can be added 2014. Let us know if you check with Entegra and what they say.
Good advice. I'll check with Entegra.

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Did you ever see one of these ?
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Not sure why they did't catch on, expense I suppose
I Googled it and it appears the system was pretty complex and expensive. It appears it would be tough to retrofit Thanks for the info though.

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Taking delivery tomorrow do I still need an EMS system with the new one installed at factory on 2015s???????
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Not sure why they did't catch on, expense I suppose
My 2005 Monaco has every major feature this system has. The only advantage seems to be a bit tighter integration and perhaps a simpler control panel.
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