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01-06-2020, 07:13 AM
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Macerator hose replacement, cam lock fitting
I had a leak in my hose (but it had the cover so it wasn’t a big mess, just a small mess). So I have a new hose (which doesn’t have ends that match the original even though I bot it from Entegra).
On my old hose I put in a cam lock fitting at the business end so I could add an extension.
I think I have read that people have also done this on the end where it attaches to the coach deep inside the storage area. That seems like it might be useful, making for a quick replacement if it breaks again. But the fitting that you screw into is close to the side of the wall and those cam lock fittings are big. Just wondering if any one has done this and has some advice.
Thanks
Van Sayler
2017 Anthem 44B
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01-06-2020, 10:12 AM
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Van
I stupidly intentionally cut my Sanicon hose on my 19 Cornerstone not long after I bought the coach for a couple of reasons. 1.) I stupidly failed to understand that there was already a cam lock in the back of my Sanicon bay compartment (I had never looked and thought that there was no breakable connection there.... that might have been a new design in 2019)). 2.) I was going nuts trying to quickly get the vacuum in the hose to release so the hose would empty, and was told by someone that the cam-locks were 2" cam locks. So, I cut the hose and grabbed the cam locks almost every store has who has fittings, only to discover that the cam locks that nest into the hose need a 1 1/2" hose fitting for the now cut hose to slip over and be clamped on.... the 2" cam-locks everyone had, had 2" bibs for the hose.... Guess what? The hose actually needs 1 1/2" hos bibs.... the cut hose will not go over the standard 2" cam locks. I had to patch my cut hose with a short section of 1 1/2" OD galvanized hose to I could sump sewer.
So I looked high and low for anyone who had the proper male cam-lock end yet a 1 1/2" cam lock hose bib and ordered one from a company that never actually sent me one and I never did get one or find one. So, I dropped ~ $250 to buy a completely new 30' Sanicon hose. That is a special hose specifically made for Entegra. It has a different number from a standard 20' hose. The Entegra version is 30'.
Maybe in your coach there isn't a cam-lock fitting in the back of that compartment, but if there is any way to remove what you have and convert it to a can-lock fitting, the ability to beak the vacuum there, pull out the end of the hose and drain it, and then put it back in and lock it with the cam lock is pure genius !!!!
I still have a very nice 30' Sanicon hose cut off near the coach end which was supposed to get two new cam lock fittings but now is sitting in a black plastic bag.... If anyone finds a source for the cam-locks that are actually needed, please tell me and I may take it along as a back up set.
I have a bunch of useless 2" cam lock males and females in my storage room.
Frustrated in Louisiana....
Gary
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01-06-2020, 10:48 AM
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01-06-2020, 10:55 AM
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I ordered that from Amazon and waited several months for the right cam-lock and never got one..... either doesn't exit or company is out of stock or its origin is in Asia somewhere... Amazon eventually gave me my money back for non delivery.
Gary
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2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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01-06-2020, 11:34 AM
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I just bought some 1.5 inch ones from a local store.
Still not sure if they will fit. I am using the male fitting on the coach side and female on the hose side but those arms on the female side swing out so wide to unlock the fitting.......
Is that how they did it at the factory?
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01-06-2020, 11:41 AM
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Got everything I needed from Ace Hardware!
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01-06-2020, 11:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vsayler
I just bought some 1.5 inch ones from a local store.
Still not sure if they will fit. I am using the male fitting on the coach side and female on the hose side but those arms on the female side swing out so wide to unlock the fitting.......
Is that how they did it at the factory?
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That’s one of the reasons I redid mine and put it underneath. Easy to hook, unhook, easy to drain the hose and you don’t have to leave the small door open while hooked up. I put camloc on everything including spare hose.
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01-06-2020, 11:44 AM
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The female cam-lock is cemeted and screwed onto the sewer discharge pipe at the back of the box and mates with the male end of the sanicon hose. The release ears of the fitting are on the female permanent end of the pipe. This set up is a dream.... on the 192 (and 20s??), you just reach into the box after the hose is fully deployed, flip the "ears" and this breaks the vacuum lock on the hose and the male end pulls out easily and then you simply drain the hose fully, they reconnect it to the fitting in the back of the box..... this is VERY convenient and very unmessy. I am impressed!!
Van.... I hope I am not mis-remembering this, but my memory is that what makes the fitting unique is that it is a 2" cam lock with a 1 1/2" OD tail.... the problem is that the hose ID is 1 1/2"and it will not slip over a standard 2" cam-lock. The ends of the sanicon have a bonded-on rubber sleeve that is 2" ID (I think that the 1 1/2" hose slips into that collar and then is glued into it and the other side fits a standard 2" fitting), but the hose itself is 1 1/2" ID and that was the kicker. I cut through the hose itself and thus my predicament.
I hope that I am not mis-remembering the dimensions.
Gary
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2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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01-06-2020, 11:47 AM
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Try camlock direct dot com.
I have no connection with nor can i vouch for this company as I have not conducted business with them.
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01-06-2020, 11:56 AM
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Bob
Did you actually cut through the hose or did you simply add cam-locks of one sort or another to the hose that you did not touch??
Gary
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Gary and Dee, Zowie and Bowie (traveling cat sibs)
2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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01-06-2020, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary.Jones
Bob
Did you actually cut through the hose or did you simply add cam-locks of one sort or another to the hose that you did not touch??
Gary
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Hey Gary.... because I don't see another Bob on this thread, I assume you are asking me how I changed to cam-lock fittings.
I bought the fittings like 777Driver shows on his post from Ace Hardware and installed them on the jacketed replacement hose provided as part of the retrofit program.
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01-06-2020, 08:09 PM
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Yes, you are right. So you use the fittings on the rubberized bonded end fittings to the hose, not to the corrugated hose itself?
Gary
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Gary and Dee, Zowie and Bowie (traveling cat sibs)
2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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01-06-2020, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary.Jones
Yes, you are right. So you use the fittings on the rubberized bonded end fittings to the hose, not to the corrugated hose itself?
Gary
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I'm traveling on business and will post a photo when I return later this week.
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01-06-2020, 09:09 PM
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Van: I got my camlocks at Tractor Supply. I made a short extension from inside the hose compartment to slightly inside the door. I will show you my setup next week in Tampa if you are not fixed by then.
See you next week.
Dave
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