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12-22-2021, 12:42 PM
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what Bob describes in part is what i call a "Double Dump". You are dumping the bags twice by stopping the jack descent, raising them them fully, and then repeating. Also, his exact steps dont necessarily need to be done in order, but it is a reasonable outline.
Some owners find the auto level works for their coach, but I have found on both my Anthem and my Cornerstone, that the auto-level just "see-saws" my coach up to unnecessary heights. By that I mean, it first raises the passenger side, then it raises the driver side, but it raises too far, and then it raises the passenger side to try to get level, but misses level and goes too high and so it raises the passenger side. This goes on and on until the coach is further off the ground than it needs to be. I have had this auto process reprogrammed professionally twice. So, no more auto-level for me and I do all the leveled from the same keypad by putting a small cheap plastic level on a nice flat floor tile, then doing the whole adjusting process myself. Much faster and I can get it level much closer to the ground using the plastic level. On my coach at least, the auto-level function is a waste of time.
On my Anthem, the auto-level was so bad that it could torque the chassis so much that I could not open my entrance door to the coach..... so I learned quickly that the auto-level was not what it was cracked up to be.
Gary
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2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
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12-22-2021, 12:53 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary.Jones
Mike
Unless you have a bad leak in your air ride system, you coach should maintain itself at ride height for long periods of time.
If your coach falls out of ride height, your dash should start showing the message "Not at ride height" and warn you that you are now somewhere else in ride height.
Gary
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That is only if the ignition is ON.
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2017 Grand Cherokee
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12-22-2021, 01:02 PM
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If my coach's system doesn't leak, then it will hold its level with the engine/ignition off or on..... it doesn't matter. It wont re-level unless the ignition is on (but sometimes mine does). that is a different issue.
Gary
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2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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01-04-2022, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by T_Roy
Sorry for a dumb newbie question but I am in the process of purchasing my first Motorhome. I am guessing when you get parked you are supposed to level the coach first and then bring the slideouts out??
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If the unit isn't level, with legs out, the slides don't (I won't move them)!
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01-05-2022, 05:29 PM
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When you are ready to depart, fire up the Cummins and come to ride height. There is usually a message on the dash that says "not at ride height" Wait for it to go out. When at ride height, retract the backs or retract them as you are running the Cummins. When fully at ride height (even if not on the level), now you can bring in all four slides.
Gary, one thing wrong with your post is Mh won’t go to ride height by just starting the engine. It will build the air pressure, but won’t go to ride height until you push retract for the jacks and the air valve shifts to send air to the bags.
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01-05-2022, 09:30 PM
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Jerry
I believe you are right....
Gary
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2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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01-06-2022, 05:11 AM
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Location: Springdale, Arkansas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobG88
Roy, everyone will have their own set of procedures - I laminated the below, and still use them for reference, as I still tend to forget at least an item or 2:
Arrive at campsite:
Ensure room for slides, water, electrical, sewer, awnings, top of vehicle, and basement doors
Turn off water pump & close valve, A/C & generator (?)
Turn off engine - wheels MUST be straight
MAKE SURE POST and MAIN BREAKER are OFF
Connect & turn on electrical
Connect & turn on water
Open slides – CHECK air return magnets and seats first
Level coach (ensure ground is OK for jacks - wheels must be straight)
If necessary, stop system after bags dump, raise manually, then hit “Auto Level” again. After bags dump again, then stop and level manually
Turn on Aquahot
Double-check refrig
Open awnings(?)
Install wheel, mirror, wiper and tow-bar covers (if necessary)
Leave campsite:
Close awnings
Close hatches
Turn off A/C System and Aquahot
Lock refrigerator latch, table latch, dishwasher, shower door
Close bedroom TV cabinet, check all doors, and crank antenna straight
Remove all covers
Check tires, clean jacks, and do walk-around
Dump and clean sewer
Disconnect water, open valve and turn on pump
Do brake procedure, and start engine (after yellow engine light goes out)
Turn on “Cruise” and hit “Resume” within 3 seconds to raise idle
Raise jacks (air pressure at minimum 125)
Check outside for clearance, and pull in slides – CHECK seats/broom, etc...
Disconnect electric cord from post
Start generator and turn on A/C (if necessary)
Check air pressure (minimum 125), and if OK depart
Hope this might help you a bit. Thanks,
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Bob, I have a question about the valve you talk about coresponding with turning your your water pump on and off. What valve are you talking about. I’ve never turned any water valve on or off when using water pump. 16 cornerstone. Thanks. Rick
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01-06-2022, 09:01 AM
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With regards to getting to ride height;
I hit all retract, wait until it is done, then hit it again and start my walk around.
You will see the coach come to ride height.
For me, it’s the second retract all that gets me to ride height.
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01-06-2022, 06:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Razorrick
Bob, I have a question about the valve you talk about coresponding with turning your your water pump on and off. What valve are you talking about. I’ve never turned any water valve on or off when using water pump. 16 cornerstone. Thanks. Rick
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Rick,
Our coach has a factory installed back-flow valve (prevents water flowing through the pump into tank while on city water). Thanks,
BG
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01-07-2022, 08:26 AM
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Location: Louisiana
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Tom
Hitting the retract button twice has nothing to do with it and I think that the normal process of coming to ride height just happens to occur during your time of walking around the coach. I have never hit the retract twice and my coach comes to ride height just fine . Now I do "double dump" (the air) from the bags in the process of leveling to bring the coach to level, but in coming back to ride height, I have never used the retract button twice and pretty sure that it is not necessary.
But if it works for you, then let the process stand....
Gary
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2019 Cornerstone 45B, X15-605hp, Imperial, Spartan K3,
2013 Honda CR-V toad, Demco Excali-Bar II,
Demco Baseplate, Demco Toad Light system, 73 de W5FI
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01-09-2022, 07:18 PM
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Jacks
Be sure your air is up all the way before u pick the jack up because the coach wouldn’t come up to ride height!! Don’t ask me how I know that!!
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01-11-2022, 10:42 AM
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Entegra Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Craneboy302
Be sure your air is up all the way before u pick the jack up because the coach wouldn’t come up to ride height!! Don’t ask me how I know that!!
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Very true! It can take over 100 psi to ensure the valve moves to the proper position to allow the air bags to inflate.
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2014 Entegra Anthem 44B
2014 Honda CRV Touring
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01-12-2022, 01:28 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary.Jones
If my coach's system doesn't leak, then it will hold its level with the engine/ignition off or on..... it doesn't matter. It wont re-level unless the ignition is on (but sometimes mine does). that is a different issue.
Gary
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I was referring to what you said about your dash saying Not at Ride Height. My dash doesn’t say anything unless ignition is ON.
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