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brobox · 03-30-2022, 03:35 PM

For those that have the 2021 year coaches with the Sanimarin toilet that had the touch pad contorller update preformed, did you see an improvement in the working of the toilet and was it satisfactory? Appreciate any comments, thank you.

Bobby Dowdle · 03-30-2022, 05:17 PM

Sounds like Entegra has gotten themselves into quite a mess. The touchpad TSB is to change the logic on the flush. Not designed to see a drastic improvement of the operation. I’ve seen post where you are having to flush multiple times. That should not be how a toilet works. Maybe if enough people ask, Entegra will replace the toilets with a different manufacturer.

Harleydeal · 03-30-2022, 05:56 PM

I had a Tecma in my 19 Cornerstone. Never had a problem. When I found out my new Renegade was going to have 2 Sanimarins and that they were replacing the Tecma’s with them I was very apprehensive bcuz of the problems documented here. So after having them for a couple long trips I have to say…….I like them. They are working great. Is it possible it was an installation issue at Entegra?

brobox · 03-30-2022, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Harleydeal

I had a Tecma in my 19 Cornerstone. Never had a problem. When I found out my new Renegade was going to have 2 Sanimarins and that they were replacing the Tecma’s with them I was very apprehensive bcuz of the problems documented here. So after having them for a couple long trips I have to say…….I like them. They are working great. Is it possible it was an installation issue at Entegra?

Mine was one of the first ones installed before the upgraded control panel. It takes 2-3 flushes to empty the bowl. I am trying to see if the upgrade solved the problem, or if I will change out the toilet if the upgrade did not solve the problem for others. As it is now, we have limited use of a full bath as the toilet is not dependable that it will flush.

Archer2 · 03-30-2022, 08:23 PM

I have a '21 Aspire with 2 of the SaniMarin macerating toilets, neither of which worked very well and I had NIRVC in Arizona do the TSB for the controls,in April of last year. I must say that I don’t have any complaints about their functioning now except that they now seem to use significantly more water. Otherwise they both work well.

Tim Fox · 03-31-2022, 06:03 AM

For our 21, after the update it definitely used more water and also somewhat improved on the ability to empty the bowl. That said, you could not depend on a complete flush. Complete flush maybe 70% of the time. Certainly not ideal for dry camping, which we do somewhat frequently.

Harleydeal · 03-31-2022, 06:42 AM

These have always been part of my arsenal for the “larger job”. Work great…..with both the Tecma and now my SaniMarin’s.

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hpykmpr47 · 04-04-2022, 04:30 AM

We had 2 of them and could never depend on them working properly. We did every update available and replaced controllers and nothing seemed to help so we replaced the toilets with the Tecma . They work great so far. Poor decision on Entegra"s part to install those in coaches I would say.

Stingray21 · 04-26-2022, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brobox

For those that have the 2021 year coaches with the Sanimarin toilet that had the touch pad contorller update preformed, did you see an improvement in the working of the toilet and was it satisfactory? Appreciate any comments, thank you.

We just had the coach in (2021 Entegra Reatta) the shop for a whole month. They replaced the whole toilet (same model) and no difference. The did the upgrade to the controller as well.
We worked with Entegra ((Nate). Dealer agreed they the toilet is garbage but Entegra isn’t budging. They took videos of everything from Gatorade and peanut butter with toilet tissue to show them. We’re not done yet. Plan on writing the ceo. Horrible that you can’t depend on it.

JLHoughton · 04-26-2022, 04:23 PM

I agree do not work as expected. Even with the upgrade still not very good. I tried to get them to replace them during our AIR but had no luck either. Had a good talk with Joyce about them she claimed not may complaints about them. I have found that they work better with higher water pressures. It appears the reprogramming only increased the water fill time so if low pressure then very poor flush.

brobox · 04-27-2022, 06:22 AM

Thank all of you for the feedback on the upgrade and how it really worked.

I have spoken with NIRVC about this issue. With all of their Techs trying to figure out a solution to the Sanimarin toilets, they came up with the same results as you all did. Mid year NIRVC paid the up-charge and switch all of their 21 orders to Tecma toilets. It was not worth the cost to have the bad customer relations leaving those toilet in their ordered coaches, knowing a working brand was still available. Taking that advise, and the experience of others, I have decided to pay the up-charge and switch the toilet out.

Harleydeal · 04-27-2022, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by brobox

Thank all of you for the feedback on the upgrade and how it really worked.

I have spoken with NIRVC about this issue. With all of their Techs trying to figure out a solution to the Sanimarin toilets, they came up with the same results as you all did. Mid year NIRVC paid the up-charge and switch all of their 21 orders to Tecma toilets. It was not worth the cost to have the bad customer relations leaving those toilet in their ordered coaches, knowing a working brand was still available. Taking that advise, and the experience of others, I have decided to pay the up-charge and switch the toilet out.

It’s a mystery as it seems to be Entegra specific? I have two Sanimarins in my new Renegade and they are working perfectly…I dare to say I prefer them to the Tecma.

jeff.herren · 04-27-2022, 10:20 AM

Harley, Do they work better while on pump but also city water? I was thinking if you run your pump all the time like some (to augment or gain consistent pressures) then maybe the pumps in the Renegade provide better pressure therfore better SaniMarin flushing.

However if you're straight city water with similar pressure variances that would be interesting that yours work better and may be preffered.

Maybe PEX-a with full flow vs PEX-b with restricted flow? (Entegra uses PEX-b and the fittings restrict flow to what the diameter of pipe can handle because the fittings reduce pipe diameter.)

Harleydeal · 04-27-2022, 12:25 PM

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Harley, Do they work better while on pump but also city water? I was thinking if you run your pump all the time like some (to augment or gain consistent pressures) then maybe the pumps in the Renegade provide better pressure therfore better SaniMarin flushing.

However if you're straight city water with similar pressure variances that would be interesting that yours work better and may be preffered.

Maybe PEX-a with full flow vs PEX-b with restricted flow? (Entegra uses PEX-b and the fittings restrict flow to what the diameter of pipe can handle because the fittings reduce pipe diameter.)

Great question. I am not aware of which type PEX I have but will check that out. Mine seems to run well on city water or pump. Which leaves very few other options as to why I have no issue. Possibly drain line geometry? No clue……..