Staying power?

[oneknight]

Originally Posted by hdgoldie

We did learn that you can't turn off the generator and expect to watch TV without the AGS triggering a start...and a stop...and a start...and a stop... [emoji849] It definitely works. [emoji57]

That was my problem with the AGS in the Monaco, and the reason I've never used it in the Aspire. It's not easy to get it right with it triggered by voltage. Loads will sag the voltage considerably.

In the Monaco, with the BMK and magnum's AGS module, I could make it work by triggering the AGS from State of Charge. I guess that won't be possible with the Cummins AGS in the Entegra.

[Matt D]

Not unless you were to remove the Command 30 and wire up the Magnum AGS. I believe this would be a lot of work but would reward you with an AGS that understands SOC.

-Matt

Originally Posted by oneknight

That was my problem with the AGS in the Monaco, and the reason I've never used it in the Aspire. It's not easy to get it right with it triggered by voltage. Loads will sag the voltage considerably.

In the Monaco, with the BMK and magnum's AGS module, I could make it work by triggering the AGS from State of Charge. I guess that won't be possible with the Cummins AGS in the Entegra.

[ResortMGR]

Great conversation, helping me reset my expectations a bit. Nothing plugged into the outlet in the engine bay so not the cause. Does 50 watts ac draw seem high with everything I can find turned off? Or am I expecting too much?

I do appreciate all the feedback though.

[Turbojack]

Originally Posted by ResortMGR

Great conversation, helping me reset my expectations a bit. Nothing plugged into the outlet in the engine bay so not the cause. Does 50 watts ac draw seem high with everything I can find turned off? Or am I expecting too much?

I do appreciate all the feedback though.

Did I miss reading if the 50 watts was 12V or 50 watts @ 120V?


Dam near everything plugged in that is 120V has a standby power usage. TV's Stereo, Sat receivers (these are are the worse) Sound Bar, Microwave, Dishwasher, stove, dishwasher, and the electric outlets with the USB's in them. I could see how all of these items would get you 50 watts @ 120V

[twinboat]

44 amps for 8 hours is 352 AHs. Seem like your L16 batteries are in good shape.

You just need to find out what's pulling all that power. Set it up and start switching things off.

A residental fridge should be about max of 20 amps while running. The run 1/3 of the time, if your not making ice.

[Old Scout]

Background amp draw varies from inverter to inverter.....just keeping the inverter "buzzing" all night requires some amount of power.....not familiar with your L-16 bats but with the minimum appliances on, a little TV time before bedtime, and the propane furnace on low, I generally use about 300 AMP/hrs per night--give or take....that means I need about 600+ AMP/hrs [50% SOC] of bat storage to get thru the night in Q-site…..

[royals1212]

Adding L16 batteries to a classic Aspire might cause some weight problems on your front axel. Just something to keep in mind before you start changing them. Most Classic Aspires are running pretty close to max weight on the front axel when loaded out

Herb

[voltdoc]

Originally Posted by oneknight

Last night was our first night in the coach without external power.

I shut off the Genny at 10:30.
I left the inverter on. I noticed it read 44 amps, considerably more than the 25 I figured.
I generally wake up repeatedly, so I figured I'd keep an eye on the voltage.

We'll I slept straight thru til 4. Inverter was flashing a red love voltage light. Genny wouldn't crank. ( Toilet still flushed)

I used the boost switch to start the Genny and went back to bed.

So what's up with a 44 amps load on the inverter?
Fridge was on but I'd turned off the ice maker. All the parasitic loads were on still.

The 2 L16's lasted somewhere between zero and five hours. Normal?

I'll do some testing to try to find those amps.
I'll also setup and test the auto gen start.
I have a magnum bmk I need to install, unfortunately it's at home and we're not.
And I need to see about adding 2 more batteries.

Yes pretty normal. So as you pointed out the 44 Amps the magnum remote displayed was just the power being consumed by loads connected to the inverter. There is even more power being consumed by direct 12vdc battery connected loads (like lighting, aquahot, etc.) that won't show on the Magnum panel without a BMK. So your total amp draw was something even higher, get that BMK installed to see the entire picture.

When we boondocked at Quartszite in our 2013 Aspire with only the 400 AH battery bank (similar to yours) the only way we got thru the night was to turn off the biggest consumer - the fridge. Actually better yet, at lights out I turned off the inverter altogether. That cut total consumption at least in half as measured by my BMK. You can charge your phones using the 12v outlets on the dash.

My current Samsung fridge consumes on average about 7.5 Amps/hour (with icemaker and defrost cycle active). Remember too the inverter consumes at least 3 amp/hours just being on. By turning off the inverter the fridge goes quiet and you also save all those parasitic loads from the TV's and such, the inverter remote panel still consumes about 300mA.

This is old info but here are some BMK measurements from my 2013 Aspire https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...ms?usp=sharing

The fridge/freezer will stay cold if you don't keep opening it especially if it is full, we had wireless temp probes to keep an eye on it and never saw more than a 2 or 3 degree rise overnight.

For our current Samsung fridge, the power consumption measurements over time were taken from the E-Smart Refrigerator app which allegedly constantly tracks power used. Here's a recent screen dump taken on 12/28. If you do the math the consumption average for the month comes out to about 90 watts per hour.

[Mwoodofd]

Thanks for posting your link again Rob. I will review this before I go to Quartzsite to manage my power.

I'm a little concerned about my hydraulic filter leak and getting it corrected-hoping I can get it corrected in time

Good info on the power consumption.

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