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Old 07-08-2020, 06:21 AM   #1
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Steering wheels overheating

I have a 2019 Entegra Anthem purchased new. Immediately after delivery I experienced extremely hot steering wheels hubs during warm weather travel. I took the coach to Spartin and after thorough inspection they assured me that everything was normal. I weighed the coach and my travel front weight is 15,500 pounds (below the 17,000 max). Last week traveling in 90 degree weather both steering wheels became extremely hot and the passenger side wheel hub started smoking which halted our travel fearing a fire or blow out.

I am communicating with Entegra and Spartin regarding my issue and so far without resolution. Can someone offer a suggestion? Is this a common issue with the Anthem? Is this a design flaw which prompted Entegra to increase the max weight for the steering (front axel) to 19000?
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I have a 2019 Entegra Anthem purchased new. Immediately after delivery I experienced extremely hot steering wheels hubs during warm weather travel. I took the coach to Spartin and after thorough inspection they assured me that everything was normal. I weighed the coach and my travel front weight is 15,500 pounds (below the 17,000 max). Last week traveling in 90 degree weather both steering wheels became extremely hot and the passenger side wheel hub started smoking which halted our travel fearing a fire or blow out.

I am communicating with Entegra and Spartin regarding my issue and so far without resolution. Can someone offer a suggestion? Is this a common issue with the Anthem? Is this a design flaw which prompted Entegra to increase the max weight for the steering (front axel) to 19000?
This is not normal. If you have an instant temp sensor, take a reading or two. Smoke coming from the hubs is not normal. I have an Anthem and never seen anything smoking from the hub. I have seen hubs smoking on previously owned coaches when the wheel bearing is about to go out.

Keep us posted please.

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Heavy brake use can bring up temps.

It seems your from FL. Are you traveling is the mountains ?
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Not dragging brakes?
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Not dragging brakes?
I had dragging brakes, not on an Entregra, but my older Foretravel. Wife said she smelt wires burning. I pulled over on side of road and walked around coach. When I got to the back I could see smoke. Checked it out and hub was hot and smoking. Turned out putting in new slide pins on the disc brake, and repair shop had put regular grease on the brake grease fitting instead of the special clay base grease solved the problem.
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As for the weight issue. I had a 14 with the 17,000 lb front axel. I was loaded to 16,560 lbs. In 34,000 miles never had a heat issue with the steer axel. Mine was checked at least once a day in rest areas with a heat gun.
I would first look at the wheel hubs, I had a lot of problems with hub seals leaking, but never ran out of fluid to where they overheated.

If the passenger side started smoking, and the brakes were not being used, it needs an inspection. I hope you took a picture of the smoking wheel for Entegra and Spartan. Any issues like that, you'll want a photo record in your file at Entegra for warranty.
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Is the two stage engine brake turned off? I have seen a coach (not mine) that had extremely overheated wheels after a lot of downhill brake use and engine brake turned off.
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Sorry about your problem.

Not knowing your DP but will offer the following:
If you have wet hubs you definitely need to have the oil checked. If its okay the brakes need to be inspected. Overheated hubs will destroy the oil viscosity when it starts smoking.

Just had smoking hubs on a used car I bought to use as a toad. Since it was the rear it turned out the be the emergency brake. Repaired but kept hearing intermittent grinding (when limited outside noise) - turned out to be a missing spring on my driver's side front brake.

Hope your get it identified and fixed quickly.

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Not in mountains. Driving across Illinois on flat ground, noticed a strong burning smell inside the coach and unusually hight tire pressures and pulled over to check.
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Not in mountains. Driving across Illinois on flat ground, noticed a strong burning smell inside the coach and unusually hight tire pressures and pulled over to check.

A little more detail from your original post. When was the last time it was inspected? You mentioned last week,

Last week traveling in 90 degree weather both steering wheels became extremely hot and the passenger side wheel hub started smoking

Has it been inspected since it started smoking? Seems if it was hot enough to smoke the reason should be evident. If is was the fluid, it would smell burnt. Have you removed the hub cover to look and smell?
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If you can get the front wheels off the ground, you can see how hard they rotate.

Could have dragging calipers.

Try rotating them right after lifting them and then step on the brake, let off, and see if they drag. Could be a sticky relay valve. Relay valves relieses the air pressure when you let up the brake pedal.
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I'll agree with twinboat, first thing I would think of would be dragging calipers. There are various reasons why they would drag.
I would get an infrared heat gun, then you can see which item is the hottest, caliper, rotor or hub. That will narrow it down and give you a place to start.
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Hopefully there is oil in the front hubs - if new and right off the bat has been running hot, I would sure check that first.

Many chassis left the factory with zero grease on any of the zerks. I hate to think a chassis would be put into service without any oil in the front end.
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The disturbing part of this is that the OP took it back to Spartin to have it checked out and they said everything was normal.
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