Surge guard

[RubiconTrail]

I am interested in the source of the problem too.

The reason Entegra does not include the surge protector as an OEM part is that the warranty wouldn't transfer. Buying from Progressive, the surge protector is warranted to the purchaser, you. That lifetime warranty has tremendous value, no reason for it to be warranted to Entegra!

[Gary.Jones]

John

I don't doubt you at all, but if you are right, that has got to be the dumbest reason that I have ever heard ...... That change to bypass the coach manufacturer and warrant to the original purchaser of that coach would require changing of a few words in the warranty document.

If you owned Progressive and you could change a couple of words in the warranty document and then sell your unit to be installed in all Entegra, all Tiffin, all Newmar, all Winnebago coaches and half of all the 5ers that are sold in the country every year so they were installed at the factory before delivery and sale, or keep the warranty wording and sell units to maybe 20% of the new owners of the same units..... which of those would you as CEO of whoever owns Progressive choose?

Wow !! I know what decision I would make!! I am pretty sure I know what decision you would make too

Gary

[Nowabeachbum]

Originally Posted by RubiconTrail

I am interested in the source of the problem too.

The reason Entegra does not include the surge protector as an OEM part is that the warranty wouldn't transfer. Buying from Progressive, the surge protector is warranted to the purchaser, you. That lifetime warranty has tremendous value, no reason for it to be warranted to Entegra!

The warranty would probably transfer but not the cascading failures that would happen as a result of a hit. As an example, If you are hit by lightning and all your electronics are destroyed along with the surge protector. The only thing Progressive covers is the surge guard. You would expect Entegra to cover everything but Entegra is unwilling and rightfully so to commit to any cascading failures. And probably why they do not include a surge guard in the original purchase.

[ThomasBachi]

Hello All
I have seen a lot of problems with power pedestals thru the years of my travel. I am currently a NRVIA RV Inspector and repair technician and I have recently stumbled over this Pedestal tester and planning to build one my self. It is worth looking at so I am enclosing the link to the PDF.
http://hhrvresource.com/sites/defaul...tal_Tester.pdf


Thomas
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[Gary.Jones]

Gary

That is a very interesting perspective, and I would not be a bit surprised you are right....

But wouldnt Progressive have the responsibility? which might be the reason that they dont do it. (But then, I'll bet that they had their attorney write up wording that says they are not responsible for any down stream side problems, only repair of their unit. That would be wording that would be well worth the expenditure...

Gary

[Mwillis]

Don't expect progressive to repair or replace your surge protector following a lightening strike. It is excluded in the warranty. Don't ask me how I know. Still worth having.

[lowejug]

Originally Posted by Mwillis

Don't expect progressive to repair or replace your surge protector following a lightening strike. It is excluded in the warranty. Don't ask me how I know. Still worth having.

Probably with 2 more pages of other reasons they won’t replace it... not surprised...

[wa8yxm]

Yes you need a Surge Guard. I like the Progressive industires HW-30/50C (hardwired) or PT 30/50c (Portable) 30/50 use a 30 if your RV is 30 amp. 50 if your rv is 50 amp. Do not worry about using the other size park outlet they work find.

THIS IS NOT. however your problem.

When switching from Generator to Shore power .. Turn off MAIN breaker, then stop generator, wait 3 minutes, turn main breaker back on

When goign the other way (Shore to generator) turn off MAIN, wait 3 mintues, Start Generator and wait for CLUNK turn back on.

THis i9s the safest way to do it though I usually turn my breaker back on before starting..

The idea is you do not want the transfer to happen UNDER LOAD.. Connecting under load is OK but not transferring, that can weld contacts. (it is the "Break" before the make that does it.)

[brobox]

John made a good point about taking the load off of the transfer switch before changing power sources. I have talked to other that "just switch" and did not know there is proper procedure. It is explained in the Onan Manual. I don't use the main circuit breaker, just turn off the AC units, let the generator run for at least two minute before shutting off, reverse before putting a load on the generator. I also unplug from shore power before running the generator, not both at the same time. I know the transfer switch is suppose to switch over, but they are the weak link.
Good point wa8yxm, I think a lot of new owners are not aware of this procedure, not followed it can get expensive. If the stators in the generator get damaged, that is real expensive.

[wa8yxm]

By the way if it makes you feel any better I will tell you how I learned to SWITCH OFF before Transferring loads (And yes. the Air Conditioenrs and a residential or other compressor refrigerator are the primary culprits if you do not want to turn EVERYTHING off)

Same as you... Fried a Transfer Switch..

We learn by mistake... That is if you have someone to explain the mistake as I did.

[cwr321]

Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit

Surge Protection is GREAT and Progressive Industries is top notch......even though the company was bought out and the 'life time' warranty is no longer as inclusive as it was!

WHY have you gone thru THREE (3) transfer switches and some 'other' electronics in ONE Year?

I guess it’s because I didn’t bother to buy the surge protector earlier. I have now ordered the Progressive 50 amp EMS which will be Delivered tomorrow Thanks to all for the replies and guidance. Chuck

[bevandtomH]

I am refreshing this post since I want to purchase one.
By the looks of PI's site, I want the EMS-PT50X Surge Protector (want the portable version).
Has anyone also purchased the RV 30R-50P Adapter? Or are you using your dog bone?
Tom

[creativepart]

Originally Posted by bevandtomH

Has anyone also purchased the RV 30R-50P Adapter? Or are you using your dog bone?
Tom

I’m using a “dog bone” with mine as I write this. It works well, but the surge suppressor is kind of sitting on the ground now.

After looking up this adapter you’ve mentioned, I’m going to get one. Thanks!

[ThePowells]

Last trip out (Florida Super Show) I kept having intermittent shut downs for "low voltage". Was found to be a loose connection in the pedestal. Running the coach at max amps including a 1500 watt heater would have been damaging to stuff running at the 90 volts being indicated at shut down.