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04-08-2017, 05:11 PM
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Here's a good way to wash it;
https://youtu.be/dHYDzqy4doE
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2016 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
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04-08-2017, 10:10 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Sun City Center, FL
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I sure would NOT use a brush on my paint.
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2017 Entegra Anthem/FL/Allison/Grand Cherokee 
Entegra Coach Owners Association, President
Sun City Center, FL
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04-09-2017, 04:28 AM
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#87
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Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by palehorse89
Water softeners change the water by adding sodium chloride (or another substance)to the water. It "softens" the water by displacing the calcium and magnesium (which cause hard water), with an ion that does not cause hard water. This allows soap and detergent to make better suds/foam. It does not remove any of the ions that are bad for our fishtanks (nitrate, phosphate, sulfide, etc.)
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Not the way sofeners work, they work as an an ion exchange. They don't add salt or potassium chloride to the water at all.
the calcium & magnesium attaches to resin bed thru the ion exchange. (kinda like a magnet) the salt or potassium chloride is only used during the backwash or regen to release the calcium and mag. and wash it out of the resin bed.
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where RO passes the water through a membrane that has holes only big enough for water, but not the ions. This removes most of the ions, good and bad, from the water. Then you need to add back the good ions (sodium, chloride, calcium, magnesium, carbonate, iodide, etc = SALT).
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you don't add anything back, that defeats the purpose.
The water from an RO is drinkable as pure water.
Now if you have a RO large enough it will remove all the calcium & mag therefore, no need what so ever for softener.
My setup is a commercial grade filter like the one by Nova Filters pics below.
that will purify the water (not soften)
it will last 18 months before the elements need changing or 26,000 gallons.
they sell for about $400
there's another pic of the filters that was after about 8,000 miles or 4 months of rv'g
I can drink the water at any RV park it will be pure.
in addition I have an RO at the sink with a separate faucet for even purer water.
I've spoken to these people at Nova they know water filtration and ship anyplace.
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1,060 Watts of Solar | 8 T-105 RE Batteries | Outback controls
HR 38 Endeavor
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04-09-2017, 04:57 AM
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#88
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmpbauer
I sure would NOT use a brush on my paint.
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Absolutely agreed.
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2017 Aspire 44B
2016 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
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04-09-2017, 05:41 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo2013
Not the way sofeners work, they work as an an ion exchange. They don't add salt or potassium chloride to the water at all.
the calcium & magnesium attaches to resin bed thru the ion exchange. (kinda like a magnet) the salt or potassium chloride is only used during the backwash or regen to release the calcium and mag. and wash it out of the resin bed.
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Water softeners change the water by adding sodium chloride (or another substance)to the water. It "softens" the water by displacing the calcium and magnesium (which cause hard water), with an ion that does not cause hard water. This allows soap and detergent to make better suds/foam. It does not remove any of the ions that are bad for our fishtanks (nitrate, phosphate, sulfide, etc.)
Described above is the result of the after "Back wash procedure"....
https://www.diamondcrystalsalt.com/h...-softener-work
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-softeners-wo/
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04-09-2017, 05:50 AM
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your not reading it correctly, I'm not going going to debate the function
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HR 38 Endeavor
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04-09-2017, 06:01 AM
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#91
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Spartan Chassis
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Location: Memphis, TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swberry
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NIRVC in Atlanta has one of these. I watched it work while there last week.
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Memphis, TN
2017 Entegra Anthem 44B - Victory Blue
2016 Ford Edge Titanium
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04-09-2017, 06:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Victory Blue
NIRVC in Atlanta has one of these. I watched it work while there last week.
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Does it wash it, rinse it, dry it all in one motion Bill??
I have never seen one 
Does it also do the roof? or just the side's?
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04-09-2017, 06:32 AM
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Spartan Chassis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by palehorse89
Does it wash it, rinse it, dry it all in one motion Bill??
I have never seen one 
Does it also do the roof? or just the side's?
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I'm sorry I can't answer your questions. I saw them wetting the side of the coach with a power washer and then start the machine down the side to wash, but couldn't watch the whole cycle. From its configuration I don't think the machine does anything to the roof.
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Memphis, TN
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04-09-2017, 06:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Victory Blue
I'm sorry I can't answer your questions. I saw them wetting the side of the coach with a power washer and then start the machine down the side to wash, but couldn't watch the whole cycle. From its configuration I don't think the machine does anything to the roof.
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Thank you Bill for your reply........
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04-09-2017, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Victory Blue
NIRVC in Atlanta has one of these. I watched it work while there last week.
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Yes this was NIRVC in Lewisville, TX.
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2017 Aspire 44B
2016 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
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04-09-2017, 09:27 AM
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Location: Rescue, ca
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does that machine have brushes or?..wonder if it leaves any brush marks?
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04-09-2017, 10:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffnjen
does that machine have brushes or?..wonder if it leaves any brush marks?
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It uses what looked like strands of soft microfiber material. Not like what you would find at a car wash with the spinning brushes, although operationally it works in the same manner. I inspected them and felt of them myself.
I couldn't tell you if it leaves brush marks, but I do my own cleaning and detailing for that reason so I understand your concerns. If I do have a mobile service do it I give them the equipment to use and they are normally happy to do it.
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2016 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
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04-09-2017, 10:16 AM
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#98
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Montgomery, TX (Home Sweet Home)
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I'm just curious, how are you guys scrubbing the coaches?
I use genuine lambs wool products, not the imitation.
What are you guys using?
Thanks,
-Matt
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2017 Entegra Aspire 44R (bunks) towing 2019 F-350 LB (Sold)
2012 Tiffin Phaeton 40QKH (Our Phaeton was so nice, we bought it twice)
2016 Open Range RF376FBH (Sold)
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