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05-28-2017, 10:46 AM
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You are welcome Chuck !..........as I have gained a lot of useful knowledge reading your post's !
I am waxing the Coach today with Meguiars 21, it puts a outstanding finish on what ever it is applied to ! The only wax/sealant I will buy from now on........till Marc finds something better
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05-28-2017, 12:51 PM
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Thank you and your posts as well. It was your post of the blank refillable cartridge and eBay resin that got me going on putting together the DI rinse that Doggie Daddy did a year ago
Isn't Meguiars 21 great, thanks Mark!
After watching foam cannon videos I went up to the MH and the low pressure foam cannons will not fit the Harbor Freight pressure washer. The cannons only fit pressure washers with changeable nozzles, my nozzle is adjustable. I will try the little cannon that came with the washer. I don't look for much with it, but you never know
I will order a cannon for my large pressure washer.
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05-28-2017, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by brobox
I watched some of the Chemical Guys videos this afternoon showing how to use their water cannons. They showed using the same car wash soap as they use in the wash bucket. I watch three different videos and all were the same solution. An ounce of soap to a bottle of water, warm is better.
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I just purchased the chemical guys foam cannon and their snow foam liquid soap and it is really fun to use. The soap goes on very thick and then you allow it to drip down for a couple minutes. This removes dirt. Then shoot it down again and use very light action with a microfiber on a pole. We drew quite a crowd of curious onlookers. Best part is that it was fun and no buckets required. [emoji3]
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05-31-2017, 09:20 PM
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How long after the coach comes off the line should I wait to put the Meguiars 21 sealant on? Should I put a wax on first? What do all of you recommend?
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06-01-2017, 05:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kladner
How long after the coach comes off the line should I wait to put the Meguiars 21 sealant on? Should I put a wax on first? What do all of you recommend?
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No wax needed. I'm not sure a sealant will adhere to a waxed surface anyway. I would apply asap
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06-01-2017, 05:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kladner
How long after the coach comes off the line should I wait to put the Meguiars 21 sealant on? Should I put a wax on first? What do all of you recommend?
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Hopefully this link will work. This thread has some excellent info about washing and various products for paint care. There is quite a bit of discussion on how long to wait before applying a paint sealant.
Washing the Coach
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sha...4&share_type=t
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06-01-2017, 05:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kladner
How long after the coach comes off the line should I wait to put the Meguiars 21 sealant on? Should I put a wax on first? What do all of you recommend?
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There is an excellent video on Mequiars web site https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...c+sealant+2.0+ of the procedure of using #21. I skipped the claybar, I don't plan on entering my coach in any cars shows. I am from the old school and waited six month for my first wax. Glad I did, my paint as it was curing started bubbling and peeling so I knew it wasn't any wax, or me that caused it. AH! the days of the Classics.
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06-01-2017, 09:49 AM
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Based on the recommendations here for Meguiars 21, I I just had my local detailer apply it. It turned out great & even detailer said they are going to buy & start using this product on all their jobs in the future. They were using another Meguiar product up until doing my coach.
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06-01-2017, 10:05 AM
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Guys, I just tried the foam cannon.. wow! That thing sure works.
Chuck, I took the heavy pressure washer from my old unit and adapted it to the light weight hose with the ElCheapo pressure washer, and added my good wand I had bought for my previous washer, that has changeable tips.
The upside is I have around 50' of pressure washer hose so I don't move the actual pressure washer more than once to wash the entire coach. With the pressure washer located near the RH rear corner I can reach around the rear and all the way to the LH front corner. Then I move the pressure washer toward the front a little and do the front cap and RH side.
Also, those downtubes are more than PVC tubes, they have tiny pores smaller than the resin.
-Matt
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06-01-2017, 10:17 AM
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Matt, I have been researching adapters for the Harbor Freight pressure washers to fit foam cannons. How To Select a Fitting for the Foam Cannon HP
I have to get my pressure washer and check which fitting it might take. I also saw some at Northern Tool that might work.
But you have given me and idea...I know where the are a few used guns that might work.
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06-01-2017, 10:23 AM
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Can't believe Betr2Trvl goes to extreme measures to avoid swirl marks in the wash process, them makes off-hand remark about "dry with a towel". IMHO, the average retired bath towel many use for drying cars, boats, RV's etc. poses a greater risk to paint than many of the improper wash-risks described.
Thoughts on drying using natural and/or synthetic chamois, filtered compressed air cannon/jets, microfiber towels, etc.. (bet this lights up an epistle reply from Betr2Trvl! He/she seems passionate in the wash/wax topic!)
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06-01-2017, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Fancy Free
Thoughts on drying using natural and/or synthetic chamois, filtered compressed air cannon/jets, microfiber towels, etc.. (bet this lights up an epistle reply from Betr2Trvl! He/she seems passionate in the wash/wax topic!)
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A $50. DI rinse unit eliminates any type of manual drying. Spray it and forget it..
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06-01-2017, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brobox
I switched to a microfiber washing pad sold at Walmart that I use on my extension handle. The brush scratched the soft Sikkens paint.
After Cruzers recommendation of Meguires #21 polymer sealant, I will never wax again. That stuff is awesome and so easy to work with.
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I'm with you on the microfiber wash mitt and pad. I would caution everyone, and I feel like a traitor for doing this, but not all microfiber towels, pads, etc are EQUAL and I don't recommend Walmart microfiber products. I say 'traitor' as I retired from Walmart after a very successful and financially rewarding career (should you be bored I can give you my history with the company from the insiders view). The better microfiber products are available at detailing supply stores/online. As we all know, washing the old RV is nothing like doing the car.
The next part of the process is the "waxing" as most refer to it. Wax does little for protection but makes it look really good. I prefer to use a high quality sealant (like Meguires #21) for protecting the finish. Chemical Guys also sell good sealants. I establish a 'base' by doing a good thorough washing (NO Dawn Ultra 2X - it will strip any protection you have), de-ionized rinse, clay bar cleaning, and then polymer sealant.
I was sold on the polymer products after watching a fellow use it on the black hood of a junked car (hood removed as a demo tool). He didn't even wash the hood, just applied the sealant, and then used an aerosol paint can to spray a line of yellow paint from the unprotected hood to the protected area. This was in Vegas in the summer and it dried instantly. He waited a minute while explaining the product, then took a cloth and wiped over both areas. Unprotected section had a bright yellow streak and the protected area was clean and shinny. Their products are suppose to last about a year but I have one car that is my 'test platform' and it has not been done in over five years. Water beads up nicely when washed. All my other vehicles get resealed every two years or so.
Cleaning anything is not fun in my book. An RV is like punishment. Taking the time to do it right initially will make the periodic washes much easier. I just (literally 10 minutes ago) had the stands, canisters, tubes delivered from Amazon for my DIY de-ionized water system. Will get my plumbing connection pieces this afternoon at Lowes/HD and the resin beads should be delivered tomorrow. With water like we have in Vegas (TDS reading yesterday was 671) this is not a luxury, rather a necessity. Yahoo!
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06-01-2017, 10:50 AM
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FancyFree, I think it was nice of Betr2travel to compose his post. Just like everything else in life, I take the good and ignore what doesn't work for me.
Not everything I say will work for others 100% of the time either.
I agree that the drying towels can produce some serious issues, so care must be applied to the choice of towel.
Personally, I'm using a number of various sized squeegees and clean soft microfiber towels. I also have a foam pad with hook and loop material I can attach a towel to, then connect to my extension pole in order to reach the hard to reach high spots.
The very best results have been going to a spotless rinse system.
I'm working on improving what I have, and figuring out where to hard mount it prior to our summer trip.
Best Regards,
-Matt
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