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Old 06-19-2021, 11:11 AM   #29
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I've had two replacements. Don't know what gen I now have. Left home 2 December and 8500 miles later we're safely installed at Stoneridge, ID. Off to Spearfish/Gillette 1 July. We'll play the cards we get dealt.
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Old 06-20-2021, 08:19 AM   #30
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Ed, I would continue with the trip plans with a plan"B" ready to go. If the DEF head gives the codes, you still have mileage available before derate to go into plan "B". If in the Chicago area, detour south to the huge Cummins facility in Elkhart that is the headquarters for MH and Onan Support. From there it is 2 hours to Spartan where DEF heads are located.
Thanks Chuck for the suggestion. We now have almost 19,000 miles on the coach so we have escaped a major shutdown so far. If we can get another 19,000 out of it with no issue, we would be thrilled.
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Old 06-20-2021, 06:20 PM   #31
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Chucks advice of Cummins Elkhart is good. Very nice “campground” out back. We are on day 2 of a 3 month travel schedule which includes Spearfish. We will just deal with any issues as they come. Just couldn’t stay put two summers in a row.
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Old 06-20-2021, 09:02 PM   #32
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With active codes and a check engine light, we were a couple days away from cancelling Spearfish and Gillette ourselves, but after a full failure we were apparently one of the real lucky ones to get a replacement Gen 7, very recently. So now we’re back on! I agree life’s too short to get too worried about what could happen. We got Buddy110’s Victory Blue 2018 Anthem last fall (and love it when it works!), and we can’t wait to meet some more Entegra folks at Spearfish. I’m hoping someone will help us learn more about some things on this coach! It would have been so disappointing if we had to miss out. If Gen 7 fails (or the air suspension fails again or another battery explodes or a second A/C craps out or Vega Touch goes nuts) we have our dog with us, anyway, and we still have our Jeep! If the Jeep dies, we need a newer one, anyway!😁
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With active codes and a check engine light, we were a couple days away from cancelling Spearfish and Gillette ourselves, but after a full failure we were apparently one of the real lucky ones to get a replacement Gen 7, very recently. So now we’re back on! I agree life’s too short to get too worried about what could happen. We got Buddy110’s Victory Blue 2018 Anthem last fall (and love it when it works!), and we can’t wait to meet some more Entegra folks at Spearfish. I’m hoping someone will help us learn more about some things on this coach! It would have been so disappointing if we had to miss out. If Gen 7 fails (or the air suspension fails again or another battery explodes or a second A/C craps out or Vega Touch goes nuts) we have our dog with us, anyway, and we still have our Jeep! If the Jeep dies, we need a newer one, anyway!😁
Love it Dennis - great attitude!
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Old 06-22-2021, 03:17 PM   #34
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2021 Aspire supposedly has Gen 6 def head. I ordered an extra back in January just in case, so I'm prepared. Keeping fingers crossed.
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Old 06-22-2021, 04:06 PM   #35
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Our DEF failure was in our driveway, a couple days after we returned from a month-long trip. It was replaced a week after I reported the failure.

Now our coach is ready to hit the road but the reports of failures of replacement heads and now a supply delay until Sept-Oct make us hesitate to get back on the road.

How many others have cancelled or adjusted their travel plans because of DEF heads?
If I have issues with this crap..................I will be DELETING the whole system out ! It can be done ! Don't let anyone tell you other wise ! It May not be legal BUT I DON"T CARE ! I will run my RV as NEEDED !
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Hello everyone. Im new to this forum and we are having the same issue with our DEF.head. We have a Newmar DS 2019 DS 14000 miles We went to get the coach ready for your 4 week trip across country and these codes started popping up. We are getting the same answers, wait unitl August/September. One question is how long can we drive (if we can)? [Mod Edit]
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If I have issues with this crap..................I will be DELETING the whole system out ! It can be done ! Don't let anyone tell you other wise ! It May not be legal BUT I DON"T CARE ! I will run my RV as NEEDED !


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Old 06-23-2021, 04:00 AM   #38
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Hello everyone. Im new to this forum and we are having the same issue with our DEF.head. We have a Newmar DS 2019 DS 14000 miles We went to get the coach ready for your 4 week trip across country and these codes started popping up. We are getting the same answers, wait unitl August/September. One question is how long can we drive (if we can)? [Mod Edit]
That is another problem, Spartan has not programmed in any exact mileage. it can be anywhere from 60 to 800 with the average about 250. I hope you will join others is filing a complaint with the NHTSA. Hopefully if enough people contact the NHTSA we can get a stop put to this insanity. https://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/def...sa-518276.html
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DEF heads and trip cancelation

Man, I am sure glad that my 8,3L is a 2000!
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Old 06-24-2021, 03:04 PM   #40
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Our DEF failure was in our driveway, a couple days after we returned from a month-long trip. It was replaced a week after I reported the failure.

Now our coach is ready to hit the road but the reports of failures of replacement heads and now a supply delay until Sept-Oct make us hesitate to get back on the road.

How many others have cancelled or adjusted their travel plans because of DEF heads?

Our motorhome is pre-DEF vintage so no problems.

My decision to purchase a pre-DEF model was made based on several conversations with close friends in the OTR (18 WHEELERS) maintaince industry and the tremendous problems associated with DEF.

It's an opinion, but I am glad I took their opinions seriously. For the next few years stay as far away as possible from DEF.
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Old 06-24-2021, 03:23 PM   #41
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Just replaced DEF sensor

We just spent 3 days at a Cummins shop in TX to get the sensor and installation. Has anyone had a problem once it has been replaced?
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Old 06-24-2021, 03:24 PM   #42
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Def Head

What is a Def Head? Never heard term.

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