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Old 07-24-2021, 10:26 AM   #113
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Attachment 336167. This is a picture of the Front Right Good Year G670 before I replaced with the Michelin. ( i never tried attaching a picture before So I hope this works.....)

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Iíve got something similar on my G670 295/80R22.5 steer tires. See pic. This appears to be a new development, as I check my tires often. The drive and tag tires donít have this. I believe this condition is referred to as shoulder step wear or river wear.

Should I replace these tires?

Tires have about 25k miles on the. DOT date is 27/15. I inflate steers at 115psi. Iíve weighed the coach three times in the last 3.5 years. Last CAT scale weight for front axle was 14580lb last December. Monaco rates front axle at 15160lb. My drives are 95psi and tag is 90psi.
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Old 07-24-2021, 11:13 AM   #114
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I’ve got something similar on my G670 295/80R22.5 steer tires. See pic. This appears to be a new development, as I check my tires often. The drive and tag tires don’t have this. I believe this condition is referred to as shoulder step wear or river wear.

Should I replace these tires?

Tires have about 25k miles on the. DOT date is 27/15. I inflate steers at 115psi. I’ve weighed the coach three times in the last 3.5 years. Last CAT scale weight for front axle was 14580lb last December. Monaco rates front axle at 15160lb. My drives are 95psi and tag is 90psi.
After this post and many like them, why do users still ask, just curious.
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Old 07-24-2021, 11:48 AM   #115
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Pduggs: Since they are now approximately 6 years old, if you havenít had a failure ďyetĒ, Iíd say your tires are living on borrowed time. Yours were apparently made the same week as mine, so I think you already know what I would do in your situation
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The simple and quick answer is YES. If those tires were on my coach, they would already be "gone" ... You absolutely need to get those off your coach.

I'd replace with Michelins but they are pricey. Lots of people have had good experience with TOYO as steer tires.... considerably less expensive and I hear lots of report of good mileage and quality construction.

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Just look at the treads in the G670 Goodyear tire and the treads on a Michelin RV tire. It is a no brainer to choose Michelin.
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I believe, according to my failing memory, that BOTH sets ( that could NOT be balanced ) that I had on my 2016 Spartan K2 front axle were made in the 27th week of 2015. However, I have no idea how many tires constitute a production "run", nor do I know how long a "run" lasts. All I know is that mine were "defective" and documented when we took delivery of a new EC Aspire. The dealer, Spartan, and several GY "wing foot" commercial tire centers, failed to get them balanced during multiple attempts. Swapping them with the same tires from one of the rear duals didn't help. After EC nor Spartan would replace them (again) with another brand, I paid for 2 new Toyo tires in the same size and load range, and THAT solved my problem.

As for "inspection", at least 1 of the places failing to get them balance said the "MAYBE they just need to be "shaved". The local Wingfoot dealer suggested I take them to another shop to be shaved because THEY were not allowed to do that.

To be clear, I was one of the fortunate owners that didn't have a blowout. But I refused to own a luxury DP with a shaking steering wheel and a nagging fear of a catastrophic failure.



Wondering if you filed complaints with NHTSA for each "Defective" tire? They accumulate complaints and can compare the number against production volume by week/year of the DOT code. If there is an indication of more than a handful of complaints NHTSA would then initiate an investigation, BUT of course they have to receive complaints to know the number of problems.
Too often people don't bother to file a complaint then they complain that DOT isn't doing their job. I liken this to someone being robbed but can't be bothered to file a complaint with the police then they complain about the police not doing their job of protecting citizens.


To file a complaint you will need to provide the vehicle VIN and the complete DOT serial and fill out the form. If you have pictures you can include them as that evidence is better than just saying "my tire blew up".


RE "can't balance" Yes sometimes balancing will not fix a vibration problem but I have shown on my blog that you can "balance" a cinder block. Sorry but I am not allowed to post a link. Many times the vibration is an out of round condition where the tire is not properly centered on the wheel or the wheel not centered on the hub or the hub and brakes are out of balance. It takes effort and knowledge to resolve some vibration issues.


Not sure how putting a rear tire on the front did not solve the vibration issue if in fact the problem was the tire's fault.


If you did file a complaint with NHTSA then it should be easy to look it up along with any other complaints as the search function is based on tire brand.
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Wondering if you filed complaints with NHTSA for each "Defective" tire? They accumulate complaints and can compare the number against production volume by week/year of the DOT code. If there is an indication of more than a handful of complaints NHTSA would then initiate an investigation, BUT of course they have to receive complaints to know the number of problems.
Too often people don't bother to file a complaint then they complain that DOT isn't doing their job. I liken this to someone being robbed but can't be bothered to file a complaint with the police then they complain about the police not doing their job of protecting citizens......... If you have pictures you can include them as that evidence is better than just saying "my tire blew up".


RE "can't balance" Yes sometimes balancing will not fix a vibration problem but I have shown on my blog that you can "balance" a cinder block. Sorry but I am not allowed to post a link. Many times the vibration is an out of round condition where the tire is not properly centered on the wheel or the wheel not centered on the hub or the hub and brakes are out of balance. It takes effort and knowledge to resolve some vibration issues.


Not sure how putting a rear tire on the front did not solve the vibration issue if in fact the problem was the tire's fault.


If you did file a complaint with NHTSA then it should be easy to look it up along with any other complaints as the search function is based on tire brand.
Tireman9: to answer your questions that I put in bold, NO I did not file a complaint, and I am not one claiming NHTSA didn't do their job.
None of mine "blew up".
I believe moving the rear tires to the front only served to prove my contention that the rear tires were also out of balance. Obviously your opinion differs, as if you believe they all couldn't possibly be bad.

For me, the difference was how much more of MY time and money am I going to waste on trying to fix this problem. I think I was one of the lucky ones who didn't suffer damage; I just dealt with a nagging problem that was solved to my satisfaction by replacing the fronts with Toyo.
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You obviously didn't read the article did you? It isn't about opinions of attorneys, it's about documented proof that Goodyear designed the tire for non RV use but then offered them anyway, knowing they were substandard for that application.
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Roadwarrior: it would be helpful if you reference WHO your are addressing.
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Per my post above (post #113), I plan to replace my GY steer tires next week. I contacted a tire place I’ve used in the past. They can mount two Michelin XZA2 Energy DOT 12/21 for $1650. Sounds expensive, but I don’t know. Any thoughts?
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I just spent $850 each for two 315/80R22.5 Michelins plus labor.

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Just look at the treads in the G670 Goodyear tire and the treads on a Michelin RV tire. It is a no brainer to choose Michelin.
Until the sidewalls crack like hell like they did on my Monaco. Do a search for Michelin RV sidewall cracks and you'll see what I mean.

I paid $3k on the nose for 6 Toyos, installed. When I sold the bus, I sold it to a truck driver, he said he was happy to see Toyos on it, and he drives big rigs for a living.
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