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Old 04-18-2021, 09:09 AM   #1
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Kayak Lift using awning rails?

We've been looking at a Hobbie Mirage Duo kayak which is 14 1/2 feet long. Commercial racks seem to be back bumper mounted or home made with various rails and racks mounted on the roof.


Roof mounting allows the full length to be secured but requires climbing a ladder and pulling the kayak up, or lift with a mechanical pulley system, and manually latching onto the top tie downs.


An idea came to mind while looking at our Sprinter that I wanted to throw out to the general public: What if the awning was replaced with two aluminum beams with a boat cradle, that could hold a kayak? The lift and lowering mechanism could utilized the electric motor from an awning?


We would be happy to sacrifice having an awning for the ability to mount a kayak on the beams and electrically retract the kayak up to the roof.


Some years ago, we had a trailer with a manual awning which consisted of two beams that were secured to the bottom side of the trailer which reached up to the roof. We now have a Class C with an electrical awning which we don't use for fear that it will "again" collapse in the wind or rain. By combining the two designs (long beams and electric motor/cable) I believe a kayak could be lifted up above the roof and held in place.


Any comments on this thought?
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If you'd mention your RVs specs so we could look up pictures that might help.

FYI, I don't believe I've ever seen anything like that attached or on top of an RV. Probably exceeds the legal height after you would install a rack up there for the kayak to rest on. Plus, once it's up there, then what? Wouldn't it need a small crane to lift it off, swing over, than lower it? Or did you have something else in mind to get it to the ground?

Usually I see either a custom trailer with kayaks above and quads or cycles below, or a couple kayaks on a rack on top of a towed vehicle, usually an SUV. Much lower and easier for two people to lift off and lower.



Here's one: Towed top kayak rack...

Oh, wait, you have a Sprinter! Well, no, don't customize that beautiful rig, that would be a crime!

Here, use this Kayak trailer.



It's under $800: Malone Kayak trailer...
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Inflatable kayaks?
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While making rough sketches I found that the design kept looking like a catapult with the kayak laying on it's side when mounted on the cradle. In lower, or raising, the "beams" would swing down from the side of the RV, suspended by cables. The cables would be attached to the top rail and to the roller pole that would be mounted between the two beams where the awning fabric normally would wind around. Movement would be provided to an electric "awning" motor. The kayak would be mounted 90 degrees, on it's side when the beams were horizontal to the earth, and when lifted would be upside down once full retracted. The beams would need to be taller than the roof by a slight measure and the kayak would be suspended, upside down on the cradle. Tie downs could be used to hold the beams in place once full retracted and the cable would be long enough to allow the beams to reach the ground, allowing easy removal or installation of the kayak.


Overall height of the RV is 11 ft, 6 inches and the kayak is 12 1/2 inches, making the expected vehicle height 12 feet, 7 inches. Standards for bridge clearance is 16 feet.


Any thoughts?
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All would depend on the size and weight of the kayak. With the right design, its possible but not elegant. The awning hardware wouldn't be of much use so load from the drivers side and keep the awning. Wind drag from the kayak will be the downfall.
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All would depend on the size and weight of the kayak. With the right design, its possible but not elegant. The awning hardware wouldn't be of much use so load from the drivers side and keep the awning. Wind drag from the kayak will be the downfall.

I believe the kayak is about 70 lbs. We will need to sacrifice the use of the awning to install our concept. First off, we need the electrical power for the motor and, secondly, the driver's side has a full length slide. As far as wind drag, our front overhang takes care of that for us. Using the water droplets on the windshield as a measure of wind flow, our RV has the aerodynamics of an open cardboard box. Don't believe a kayak on the roof will be noticed.
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Might take a look at commercially made electric boat loaders - could be cheaper and easier in the long run - here's one example - https://boatloader.com/

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Your motorhome does not have the internal structure to support what you want to do. There is no internal framing structure to support your lift and the kayak. Put your kayak on your toad roof or get yourself a kayak trailer if you don't tow a toad.
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