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Old 08-02-2021, 02:54 PM   #43
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I could not find a Wrangler on a dealer's lot within this weight. Dealers do not order bare-bones vehicles. The option packages add weight.
This is a bare bones Jeep Sport 2-dr soft-top, purchased from Carvana. Only options were auto trans and A/C. The extra weight came from 1/2 tank of gas, Roadmaster base plate, and several heavy items I off-loaded from the RV like my tool box.

It is very hard to find anything at a dealer. My inquiries with dealers led to $50,000 loaded Jeeps, mostly Unlimiteds, which was not what I was inquiring about. Carvana was so much easier. I'm now a big fan.
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Old 08-02-2021, 03:10 PM   #44
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Yep, this is why I made the comment. On your Jeep what do the two driver's door stickers say the (1)GVWR is and (2)how much cargo can be carried?

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It is very hard to find anything at a dealer. My inquiries with dealers led to $50,000 loaded Jeeps, mostly Unlimiteds, which was not what I was inquiring about. Carvana was so much easier. I'm now a big fan.
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Old 08-03-2021, 07:05 PM   #45
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Yep, this is why I made the comment. On your Jeep what do the two driver's door stickers say the (1)GVWR is and (2)how much cargo can be carried?
4900 lb GVWR and 700 CCC but I don’t think it’s as simple as subtracting the two. I don’t believe fuel is figured in the CCC. As I mentioned before we weighed in at 4380 with a half tank of fuel, base plates and gear offloaded from the RV so I think 3700 is a fairly accurate vehicle weight unloaded.

As most of us Sprinter owners do I guess, we will continue to scrutinize our cargo before and after each trip to only take what we really need (Vitamix blender is a good example of something that never got used!). But the Jeep proved to be a necessity for us!
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A full tank of fuel is included in the numbers. You Jeep weighed 4200 lbs as it sat on the dealers lot assuming a full tank of gas. Since you weighed with 1/2 tank of gas you have probably added around 200 lbs to the Jeep.

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4900 lb GVWR and 700 CCC but I don’t think it’s as simple as subtracting the two. I don’t believe fuel is figured in the CCC. As I mentioned before we weighed in at 4380 with a half tank of fuel, base plates and gear offloaded from the RV so I think 3700 is a fairly accurate vehicle weight unloaded.

As most of us Sprinter owners do I guess, we will continue to scrutinize our cargo before and after each trip to only take what we really need (Vitamix blender is a good example of something that never got used!). But the Jeep proved to be a necessity for us!
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My 2 cents worth from real life experience. I tow a 1998 Jeep TJ (Wrangler) with m 2014 Sprinter. I am an off roader and the Jeep is modified, i.e., heavier than a normal Jeep. It has a Ford 8.8 rear axle, steel skid plates, and many other aftermarket parts. I have had it wieghe twice with scale system that weighs each wheel separately. I had this weight system soI could see how the Jeep's weight is distributed among the wheels, its an off road thing. The Jeep total weight is just over 4600 pounds. I have towed all over the mountain West with out and problems. On some off the higher passes I slow down to 35 mph but by managing the Sprinter's transmission it gets the job done. Towing thge Jeep I get about 13 mpg, some a little more or less. Towing over the CO passes such as Eisenhower tunnels I get about 11mpg. I have a friend with a 2021 4 door JL that he tows with a Sprinter with out any problems. His JL is lighter than my TH, mainly because the JKs and JLs have plastic and aluminum body parts.
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Old 08-24-2021, 12:16 PM   #48
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I haven't looked into towing with my Entegra yet, however there is a lot of discussion regarding weight.

My coach came with the standard lead acid batteries and I'm guess that a lithium replacement would save at least 100lbs.

Have you all looked into ways to save weight? My Qwest clocked in at 10800lbs the last trip, however it was our biggest venture of the year and we loaded up.
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Inaugural trip to Yellowstone

After searching for a good used Jeep for weeks, I could not find anything that was not junk or way over-priced. I finally decided to purchase a new Jeep Wrangler sport 2dr hardtop and set it up to tow with a Ready-Brake tow bar and surge braking system. We just returned from towing it from near Houston to Yellowstone in Wyoming. I like the Ready Brake system because there is nothing to attach except one small cable at the front of the Jeep. The sprinter towed it without a complaint and went up and down the mountains without too much problem. Overall, the sprinter managed about 12.5 MPG over the entire 4000 mile trip.

It sure makes it great when you can unhook the Jeep and have local transportation.
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After searching for a good used Jeep for weeks, I could not find anything that was not junk or way over-priced. I finally decided to purchase a new Jeep Wrangler sport 2dr hardtop and set it up to tow with a Ready-Brake tow bar and surge braking system. We just returned from towing it from near Houston to Yellowstone in Wyoming. I like the Ready Brake system because there is nothing to attach except one small cable at the front of the Jeep. The sprinter towed it without a complaint and went up and down the mountains without too much problem. Overall, the sprinter managed about 12.5 MPG over the entire 4000 mile trip.

It sure makes it great when you can unhook the Jeep and have local transportation.
Looks like a great combo!
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i have a 2020 tiffin wayfarer rw and tow my 2020 ford hybrid awd escape tows it fine
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I haven't looked into towing with my Entegra yet, however there is a lot of discussion regarding weight.

My coach came with the standard lead acid batteries and I'm guess that a lithium replacement would save at least 100lbs.

Have you all looked into ways to save weight? My Qwest clocked in at 10800lbs the last trip, however it was our biggest venture of the year and we loaded up.
I've thought about removing the 200 lb Onan QD-3200 and keeping a 50 LB Honda in there instead.
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I've thought about removing the 200 lb Onan QD-3200 and keeping a 50 LB Honda in there instead.
Wow, I didn't realize that weighed 200lbs. That would be a huge reduction.
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We are taking delivery of our first Sprinter tomorrow. We have always had large diesel coaches and would like an idea of what to tow with the Sprinter.

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We, too, were familiar with diesel Class A 37' Itasca Meridian that we towed our 2014 Honda CRV four down and we hardly knew it was there. We just downsized to a 25' 2019 LTV Unity FX on Sprinter chassis (can tow 5,000 lbs) last month that we bought in OH. 2014 was the last year that it can be towed four down. We drove the Unity home to Texas towing Honda 1,400 miles with the same Roadmaster tow bar and added the Roadmaster 4750 Tow Defender All-Weather Heavy-Duty Screen that deflects rocks. My husband said he knew the Homda was there but there was no swaying ... it just "followed" us home beautifully up & down some mountains. The Honda is always empty with only gas tank half to full tank & nothing in hatchback so weight is pretty close to it's 3,500 lbs. We got 15-16mpg. BTW, we are LOVING our 25' Unity FX ... smaller, simplier & we both can drive it!
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Your MPG's are amazing.

I cannot get over 11 MPG when nearly fully loaded but not towing.

On a leisure 1 hour trip this fall nearly empty, never going over 60 on relatively flat roads, I got 12.1. Best I had ever gotten over the last 7,000 miles we put on this year.

Unit has 31,000 miles.
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[QUOTE=Jay in TX;5893606] The sprinter towed it without a complaint and went up and down the mountains without too much problem. Overall, the sprinter managed about 12.5 MPG over the entire 4000 mile trip.


We are towing my Ranger pick up (drive shaft disconnected) and we're seeing the same 12-13 MPG. I keep the fuel level in the ranger under a half and minimize the extra cargo as much as possible. Without the tow 14-16 is the norm. Heading off this Friday for a 2600 mile trip. Yesterday I removed the cab over bunk mattress. Between the ladder and mattress that was a good 40 may 50 lbs that will be staying home. Never use the cab over bunk.
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