Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > THE OWNER'S CORNER FORUMS > Thor Industries Owner's Forum > Palazzo Motorhomes
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-08-2022, 08:57 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Benicia, CA
Posts: 1,233
AC Replacement with Heat Pump

2022 Palazzo (have not picked up) does not have a front heat pump. My 2022 Entegra 27A did and so does my Montana fifth wheel trailer. The Montana front AC is a Coleman Mach 15 kw heat pump with a Dometic wall contoller that can select cooling, heating, furnace or fan and is really quiet in the heat pump mode for heating. I can buy a Coleman-Mach 15K BTU HP2 High Performance Heat Pump - Black 48004-669 for $1285. Do any Palazzo owners know the front AC manufacturer and model OR have experience doing this?
__________________
2022 Jayco Pinnacle 36SSWS (40 ft) / 2016 F-350 6.7L diesel crew cab long bed 4x2 DRW
2022 Thor Palazzo 33.6 diesel pusher / 2021 Chevy Equinox LT AWD toad
Camp CA is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-08-2022, 07:25 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Corc's Avatar
 
Thor Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Huntsville, AL.
Posts: 241
Thought about it myself. My 2018 are Dometic Penguins. One concern is you move away from low profile units. The other issue is you would have issues with Firefly system. The control would not plug and play.

I think you could get by with a separate wall unit and a taller unit, if you are ok with that.
__________________
Huntsville, Alabama
2018 Thor Palazzo 33.2
2009 Jeep Liberty
Corc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2022, 06:52 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Benicia, CA
Posts: 1,233
Not concered with the added height since Palazzo's are not that tall to begin with. However, very good comment about the controls.
__________________
2022 Jayco Pinnacle 36SSWS (40 ft) / 2016 F-350 6.7L diesel crew cab long bed 4x2 DRW
2022 Thor Palazzo 33.6 diesel pusher / 2021 Chevy Equinox LT AWD toad
Camp CA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2022, 04:37 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Corc's Avatar
 
Thor Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Huntsville, AL.
Posts: 241
Height is not a big deal, but I did hear Dometic say they were going to have a low profile heat pump in 2023.

Didnít want you to buy it and thenÖ..
__________________
Huntsville, Alabama
2018 Thor Palazzo 33.2
2009 Jeep Liberty
Corc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2022, 06:15 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Benicia, CA
Posts: 1,233
Thanks...........will check with Dometic on their low profile heat pump offering. We have some time as are picking up the new Palazzo today.
__________________
2022 Jayco Pinnacle 36SSWS (40 ft) / 2016 F-350 6.7L diesel crew cab long bed 4x2 DRW
2022 Thor Palazzo 33.6 diesel pusher / 2021 Chevy Equinox LT AWD toad
Camp CA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2022, 01:02 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
jharrell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Safety Harbor, FL
Posts: 2,217
My 2022 33.5 has two Coleman Mach 10 13.5k "Low" profile A/C units. The are not as low profile as the Mach 8 "ultra low" profile units, but are lower than the full size "medium" profile units like the one you are looking at. Not sure why Coleman decided to change high to medium, and low to ultra low when they introduced the actual medium unit the Mach 10, some kind of marketing nonsense. If you want the matching heat pump it would be 45004-6792.

Yes the main issue will be control, Firefly control board acts as the thermostat and directly controls the A/C with 3 wires, compressor, fan high, fan low, that's it, to do a heat pump (or add a heat strip also Coleman option) you need a fourth wire to tell it to switch to heat and the logic and UI to do so.

You would need to run a 4th wire to the heat pump and disconnect the controls wire from the Firefly and wire up a new separate thermostat. Another maybe simpler option is to get the Coleman shroud with thermostat built in, would not have to run a wire but still lose Firefly control, also not sure if they sell that in a ducted version.

You might be able to buy a different board from Firefly that supports heat pump but will be very expensive, my understanding is they charge $600+ just for a custom software change, $1000 to upgrade to Vega from Mira (which is just the wireless module) so who knows what it take to upgrade the main board and screen.

Here is the Firefly board reference, look at the purple connector 10.1-10.6:

Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot 2022-11-10 at 2.51.23 PM.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	397.5 KB
ID:	380614
__________________
2022 Thor Palazzo 33.5
2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Toad - Readybrute Elite Towbar
jharrell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2022, 07:45 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Benicia, CA
Posts: 1,233
jharrell.......appreciate the recommendations on Coleman Mach and Firefly. Thanks!!
__________________
2022 Jayco Pinnacle 36SSWS (40 ft) / 2016 F-350 6.7L diesel crew cab long bed 4x2 DRW
2022 Thor Palazzo 33.6 diesel pusher / 2021 Chevy Equinox LT AWD toad
Camp CA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2022, 04:16 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Benicia, CA
Posts: 1,233
For the near future will use a small, low-cost 1500 watt ceramic heater as it has demostrated it can keep the rv warm inside with outside temperatures in the low 30's.
__________________
2022 Jayco Pinnacle 36SSWS (40 ft) / 2016 F-350 6.7L diesel crew cab long bed 4x2 DRW
2022 Thor Palazzo 33.6 diesel pusher / 2021 Chevy Equinox LT AWD toad
Camp CA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2022, 01:09 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
jharrell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Safety Harbor, FL
Posts: 2,217
Small electric heater works well for living space but watch water bay temps below freezing as basement is heated by furnace but won't really be with electric heater.

So far have been happy with propane furnace, propane tank is much larger than my gas MH and Palazzo has better insulation so no issue staying warm below freezing without worrying about running out unless I stayed somewhere really cold for some time.

Next MH will have heat pumps and heated floors and diesel heat
__________________
2022 Thor Palazzo 33.5
2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Toad - Readybrute Elite Towbar
jharrell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 05:42 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 494
For our 2013 Palazzo, a small ceramic heater up front and the furnace work well. Would not spend money on the heat pump unless the rig came with it. If it is too cold and need the under basement heated, you have to run the furnace anyway and not the heat pump. The ceramic small tower is quiet. We always set the furnace at 74 degrees. My wife is on blood thinners ans is always cold. I sleep with the blankets off.
__________________
Marc
2013 Thor Palazzo 33.2
2013 Honda CRV
mlpeloquin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 06:11 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
dons2346's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 7,099
THE Dometic low profile unit I read about is a 13.5 and does not have a heat pump
__________________
Don
2002 Country Coach Intrigue
dons2346 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 06:43 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
TripleGGG's Avatar


 
Thor Owners Club
Appalachian Campers
Freightliner Owners Club
RV Trip Wizard
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lenoir City, TN
Posts: 675
We use one of the oil filled radiator heaters in our Palazzo. Set on low or medium and also have furnace set so it will come on sporadically to keep basement areas warm. Been in weather down to 4 degrees with no issues.
__________________
Greg, Gina & Ginger the rescue dog
2014 Palazzo 36.1, Cummins ISB 6.7 300hp, Allison 2500
TOAD 2008 Jeep Rubicon 4x4, Blue Ox Avail tow bar, RVi3 brake
TripleGGG is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
ace, heat, heat pump, pump, replace, replacement



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dometic Heat Pump to No Heat Pump Memphisbobby Newmar Owner's Forum 5 03-07-2021 06:07 AM
To heat pump or not heat pump Bruce and Jenna Excel Owner's Forum 17 04-15-2009 10:20 PM
Heat pump heat down to what temp? Bruce and Jenna RV Systems & Appliances 2 11-28-2008 03:39 AM
Heat: Gas & Heat Pump together? SCVJeff Winnebago Industries Owner's Forum 9 05-23-2007 06:11 PM
Heat Pump - No Heat - 2002 Journey PULLEY MH-General Discussions & Problems 5 09-12-2006 04:07 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.