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Old 09-29-2013, 01:17 PM   #1891
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I think that both of you are correct. You need the air to both inflate the bags and release the parking brake.
Interesting!
What does the air disconnect have to do with towing?
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Old 09-29-2013, 01:24 PM   #1892
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Interesting!
What does the air disconnect have to do with towing?
The rear brakes are applied by a spring and the air pressure is used to disengage the brake. Just the reverse of the usual brake operation. When the air pressure is below about 60 psi the rear brakes are applied as a safety measure. So the tow vehicle has to be able to ensure that the MH has air pressure.
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Although we leave for our first big trip next week, we have played numerous times with both sides(not having any issues :crossfingers: ) we also have not had any issues with water pump(as I've noticed on this forum) does anyone know of a recall or company fix list for the Palazzo? How would we know if there was? Any other issues with the Palazzo(maybe we should put a hit list for other Palazzo owners) I realize this is a small % of Palazzo issues...but think a hit list after several same complaints may be good! Kinda like we have folks names with the coach size/model? Will Thor replace motor and other side items if you complain?
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Although we leave for our first big trip next week, we have played numerous times with both sides(not having any issues :crossfingers: ) we also have not had any issues with water pump(as I've noticed on this forum) does anyone know of a recall or company fix list for the Palazzo? How would we know if there was? Any other issues with the Palazzo(maybe we should put a hit list for other Palazzo owners) I realize this is a small % of Palazzo issues...but think a hit list after several same complaints may be good! Kinda like we have folks names with the coach size/model? Will Thor replace motor and other side items if you complain?
As for the water pump Thor was ready to replace mine, at no cost, with the stock model. My coach is 3 months out of warranty. In my case I had already purchased an upgraded pump knowing that some pumps have failed and I was going to replace the pump at some point.

Most components only have a one year factory warranty therefore Thor has no responsibility to replace my pump but they were willing anyway. Thor did install my pump and did not charge me any labor. By the way the new pump works much better and is much quieter then the stock pump.

I do not know about creating a list of items that malfunction or fail. It may help newcomers but I have been following these Palazzo threads since day one. I have owned my coach for 15 months and I think that I have gained a ton of knowledge reading all these threads so I would not want to shortcut the learning process by creating some list of problems which could sway some to steer away from the Palazzo because they do not get the big picture. Just my opinion
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The rear brakes are applied by a spring and the air pressure is used to disengage the brake. Just the reverse of the usual brake operation. When the air pressure is below about 60 psi the rear brakes are applied as a safety measure. So the tow vehicle has to be able to ensure that the MH has air pressure.
I understand how the brakes work. Was just wondering what the air brakes had to do with the air disconnect in the gen compartment that was being discussed.
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Although we leave for our first big trip next week, we have played numerous times with both sides(not having any issues :crossfingers: ) we also have not had any issues with water pump(as I've noticed on this forum) does anyone know of a recall or company fix list for the Palazzo? How would we know if there was? Any other issues with the Palazzo(maybe we should put a hit list for other Palazzo owners) I realize this is a small % of Palazzo issues...but think a hit list after several same complaints may be good! Kinda like we have folks names with the coach size/model? Will Thor replace motor and other side items if you complain?
We are coming up on a year in our Palazzo 33.1.
Don't believe a "hit list" would help you at all. We all seem to have different issues with our coach, some small & some BIG problems.
We have had a few that required Thor's help;
A power transfer switch went out (have not seen anyone else remark on this problem). Thor sent the part & repaired locally.
We had our slide adjusted by Thor and have not had any problems since.
Had a low drain valve leak that I fixed with a new valve from Thor.
Had a toilet leak that Thor sent parts to repaired.
That's been about it.
I do try and spend time working on the coach much like I do on our stick house. There's always something to do.
Good luck and safe travels!
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As for the water pump Thor was ready to replace mine, at no cost, with the stock model. My coach is 3 months out of warranty. In my case I had already purchased an upgraded pump knowing that some pumps have failed and I was going to replace the pump at some point.

Most components only have a one year factory warranty therefore Thor has no responsibility to replace my pump but they were willing anyway. Thor did install my pump and did not charge me any labor. By the way the new pump works much better and is much quieter then the stock pump.

I do not know about creating a list of items that malfunction or fail. It may help newcomers but I have been following these Palazzo threads since day one. I have owned my coach for 15 months and I think that I have gained a ton of knowledge reading all these threads so I would not want to shortcut the learning process by creating some list of problems which could sway some to steer away from the Palazzo because they do not get the big picture. Just my opinion
Jack;
What new pump did you get? Did it help with pressure/flow?
Don't really care for the factory install. Too loud and pressure/flow is not to good.
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I understand how the brakes work. Was just wondering what the air brakes had to do with the air disconnect in the gen compartment that was being discussed.
The disconnect referred to is the coupling you make to plug in your hose. It is usually called a quick disconnect.
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I think that both of you are correct. You need the air to both inflate the bags and release the parking brake.
Gary - you are correct. I was referencing prior experience when I had to have my previous DP towed. The bottom line is you won't get anywhere with that parking brake locked which can only be unlocked with air supplied by the towing vehicle! ... Thanks

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Jack;
What new pump did you get? Did it help with pressure/flow?
Don't really care for the factory install. Too loud and pressure/flow is not to good.
Tom,

I ordered a Shurflo 4048 pump from PPL and it delivers 4GPM @55psi. We have dry camped a couple of times since it was installed and we get plenty of pressure and flow when taking a shower.

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Gary - you are correct. I was referencing prior experience when I had to have my previous DP towed. The bottom line is you won't get anywhere with that parking brake locked which can only be unlocked with air supplied by the towing vehicle! ... Thanks Norb
The brakes can also be unlocked by placing a special bolt in each brake chamber and tightening it up which releases the brakes. All tow truck driver will have the special bolts with them. Some brake chambers have the bolts attached to them
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The disconnect referred to is the coupling you make to plug in your hose. It is usually called a quick disconnect.
I don't agree that it would be called a quick disconnect when it is clearly a place to make a connection to the air supply. It is a female air line coupler and also called an air manifold.
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Gary - you are correct. I was referencing prior experience when I had to have my previous DP towed. The bottom line is you won't get anywhere with that parking brake locked which can only be unlocked with air supplied by the towing vehicle! ... Thanks Norb
Good to know.
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I know that I've seen the procedure for activating "high idle" somewhere in the forum in the past. My search has been futile though. Would anyone mind explaining how to activate it and - besides onboard air - of what use is it to me. Thanks in advance. Joe
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