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10-12-2013, 01:08 AM
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Junior Member
Thor Owners Club
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Looking for advice on exhaust braking
When to use it and when not to. From my limited experience, it is nice in heavy traffic or on slower roads. I suspect it costs in fuel efficiency as we don't coast as far.
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10-12-2013, 04:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Indianapolis,Indiana
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Originally Posted by mikebrls
to bad you cant duct that heat inside , it is so much hotter then what come's out the vent's inside the coach
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That is what a 90+ efficient residential gas furnace does. Recycles the flue gas to a second heat exchanger. End result is a 90 degree flue gas temperature vs a 250 degree flue gas temperature.
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2014 Palazzo 33.2
KarKaddy SS / Chevy Cruze
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10-12-2013, 05:47 AM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Mount Olive Shores North, FL
Posts: 2,548
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianGould
When to use it and when not to. From my limited experience, it is nice in heavy traffic or on slower roads. I suspect it costs in fuel efficiency as we don't coast as far.
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If you do a search on exhaust brake you will find many opionions as well as facts. Most important is NOT to use it on slippery roads. Some people love it and some don't, while some develop a throttle feathering technique so it does not activate when not needed.
Biggest value is to assist on downhill grades since a diesel does not have compression braking like a gas engine.
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2017 Grand Cherokee
sold 2018 Entegra Aspire 42DEQ Sweet Victory
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10-12-2013, 05:51 AM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Mount Olive Shores North, FL
Posts: 2,548
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Originally Posted by BrianGould
We just got our 36.1 last Wednesday. I thought you'd like to know what was wrong/missing for your own reference:
* Scratch on bedroom TV (will be replaced)
* Bent metal on microwave door (will be replaced)
* No travel slide bars (to be provided)
* Spring keeps popping out of TV antennae crank (they keep ignoring it after popping it back in)
* Only one ignition key (they deny that there should be a second one)
Then, we also found this in the past few days:
* Door to monitor/control panel hinges not secure (I will fix myself)
* Side curtains not connected correctly on both sides (I will fix myself)
* Light bulb out on one fixture (I am surprised at so many bulbs - not LEDs)
I am not sure if it should, but the bedroom thermostat doesn't work the furnace.
We're still going over everything. It will have to be winterized in a couple weeks.
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Congratulations and welcome!
If this is all you find consider yourself very fortunate. When you go through all the posts in this and other threads you will find many other things to look for that are not very obvious at first.
There is a great benefit to this forum and one of the early things I learned from it was that the bedroom thermostat does not do anything with the furnace.
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2017 Grand Cherokee
sold 2018 Entegra Aspire 42DEQ Sweet Victory
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10-12-2013, 06:00 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianGould
When to use it and when not to. From my limited experience, it is nice in heavy traffic or on slower roads. I suspect it costs in fuel efficiency as we don't coast as far.
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I use mine on downhill grades only. Works great there. When my exhaust break activates so do my break lights. I don't really like that feature
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10-12-2013, 07:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,454
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianGould
When to use it and when not to. From my limited experience, it is nice in heavy traffic or on slower roads. I suspect it costs in fuel efficiency as we don't coast as far.
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I turn it on and leave it on. Towing I get 11 + or - mpg and have gotten as high as 12 a couple of times on long felt stretches of interstate @ 1600 RPM. Therefore if it has a negative impact on fuel mileage it can't be much or not measurable.
As for turning on my break lights when the exhaust break engages, I like the feature. I want people to know that I am slowing down. There are enough hot rods weaving in and out on the interstate and I do not want one of these idiots to sideswipe my toad if they do not realize I am slowing down via my exhaust break. If I piss someone off behind me because my break lights are coming on when the exhaust break engages they can co around...they would make me happy, happy, happy!
Bottom line, do what make you comfortable and enjoy your coach!
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10-12-2013, 08:11 AM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 578
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianGould
We just got our 36.1 last Wednesday. I thought you'd like to know what was wrong/missing for your own reference: * Scratch on bedroom TV (will be replaced) * Bent metal on microwave door (will be replaced) * No travel slide bars (to be provided) * Spring keeps popping out of TV antennae crank (they keep ignoring it after popping it back in) * Only one ignition key (they deny that there should be a second one) Then, we also found this in the past few days: * Door to monitor/control panel hinges not secure (I will fix myself) * Side curtains not connected correctly on both sides (I will fix myself) * Light bulb out on one fixture (I am surprised at so many bulbs - not LEDs) I am not sure if it should, but the bedroom thermostat doesn't work the furnace. We're still going over everything. It will have to be winterized in a couple weeks.
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Two full sets of keys.
Hallway thermostat runs the furnace. Bedroom thermostat only controls the rear AC.
Enjoy!
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2018 Thor Aria 3601
FMCA-F434648, TDC, FCOC
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10-12-2013, 09:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: '05 Saturn Vue
Posts: 322
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How did you folks know your water pump was bad or going bad, did it get louder, start to leak? And what did Thor replace with? Is it quiet er and pump more(concerned how loud it's getting)? Any advice.....spent all week in New Palazzo and love it(few problems...but pay hyper-attention to the items that have been mentioned in this forum! Love this forum
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10-12-2013, 09:40 AM
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Hey guys first time poster! Im thinking about the palazzo 36.1. I saw one at the pomona rv show yesterday and dealer was offering 20% off, which is right around 168k. What are these going for before fees? Its a 14 by the way. Thanks!
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10-12-2013, 11:15 AM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Carolina Campers
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 1,322
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Originally Posted by Palazzoteam
How did you folks know your water pump was bad or going bad, did it get louder, start to leak? And what did Thor replace with? Is it quiet er and pump more(concerned how loud it's getting)? Any advice.....spent all week in New Palazzo and love it(few problems...but pay hyper-attention to the items that have been mentioned in this forum! Love this forum
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Most problems I've seen on the thread have been from cracks/ leaks. I've no had a problem (yet ).
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2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
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10-12-2013, 11:22 AM
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Community Administrator
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Marquette, Michigan "Da UP" & Lehigh Acres Florida
Posts: 21,802
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lakings10
Hey guys first time poster! Im thinking about the palazzo 36.1. I saw one at the pomona rv show yesterday and dealer was offering 20% off, which is right around 168k. What are these going for before fees? Its a 14 by the way. Thanks!
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10-12-2013, 11:37 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianGould
When to use it and when not to. From my limited experience, it is nice in heavy traffic or on slower roads. I suspect it costs in fuel efficiency as we don't coast as far.
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I leave my exhaust brake on all the time. Works great for down hills and in traffic. I've been told not to use it during wet or on snowy roads. It might cause the back end to come around if the tires loose traction as the transmission down shifts. Wet roads means standing water and/or heavy rain.
So far I'm averaging about 10.5 mpg with a tow. At time, I'm getting up to 12.5 mpg. From what I can see the exhaust brake has had little impact on fuel mileage. I'm happy with that.
Iggy Konrad
2013 33.1
FMCA, TDC, Northern Lights
MINI Cooper Clubman S
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10-12-2013, 12:02 PM
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#2029
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Jamestown, NC
Posts: 1,579
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lakings10
Hey guys first time poster! Im thinking about the palazzo 36.1. I saw one at the pomona rv show yesterday and dealer was offering 20% off, which is right around 168k. What are these going for before fees? Its a 14 by the way. Thanks!
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Make an offer at 30% off.
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2018 Thor Tuscany 38SQ
2019 Ford Ranger XLT Super Crew
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10-12-2013, 12:09 PM
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#2030
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Senior Member
Evergreen Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: W palm beach ,Fl
Posts: 642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gmadams
Make an offer at 30% off.
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x2 I would say between 26 and 30 % would be the goal
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