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Old 01-14-2014, 11:14 AM   #2843
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We have all been spoiled ever since auto makers switched to rack & pinion steering which is precise. The old ball screw steering is still used on trucks and our Palazzos. There is play in the system so you end up constantly moving the steering wheel left & right. My older cars drove the same way, so I really appreciate the rack & pinion steering. The ball screw can be slack adjusted to minimize it, but not totally eliminate it.

Just drove from Ohio to Florida and fought the wind all the way along with the road surface ruts. Never got blown into the other lane but did get on the white lane line. You've got to remember that you have a lot of surface area for the wind to hit. DW drives and refers to the coach as a Volkswagen Van on steroids. :-)

Passing semi trucks are a thrill. Pushes to the right as they come up on you and then pulls to the left as they pass.
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:14 AM   #2844
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I wish I knew where to look! I don't even know where the transmission is, let alone what to check. LOL. How would I even know if I had a leak?
Ok my antifreeze leak was noways near the transmission. The transmission is toward the front of the RV from the motor. Motor is at the back of the coach and the leak is even behind the motor.

So if you look just in front of your rear bumper you will see the large radiator hoses one to the far right the other one to the far left.

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Old 01-14-2014, 11:17 AM   #2845
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I wish I knew where to look! I don't even know where the transmission is, let alone what to check. LOL. How would I even know if I had a leak?
How I knew I had a leak is mine sets in a barn on a concrete floor.

I guess if yours on gravel or dirt you might put a piece of cardboard under it ??

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Old 01-14-2014, 11:31 AM   #2846
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We have all been spoiled ever since auto makers switched to rack & pinion steering which is precise. The old ball screw steering is still used on trucks and our Palazzos. There is play in the system so you end up constantly moving the steering wheel left & right. My older cars drove the same way, so I really appreciate the rack & pinion steering. The ball screw can be slack adjusted to minimize it, but not totally eliminate it. Just drove from Ohio to Florida and fought the wind all the way along with the road surface ruts. Never got blown into the other lane but did get on the white lane line. You've got to remember that you have a lot of surface area for the wind to hit. DW drives and refers to the coach as a Volkswagen Van on steroids. :-) Passing semi trucks are a thrill. Pushes to the right as they come up on you and then pulls to the left as they pass.
I've not had the handling issues. At one point I put a Stablizer on the steering. Didn't like that and took it off.

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How I knew I had a leak is mine sets in a barn on a concrete floor.

I guess if yours on gravel or dirt you might put a piece of cardboard under it ??

Russell
Our RV garage has gravel floors so the cardboard is a great idea. So set it underneath the coach in the rear? Just want to make sure I get it right.
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Our RV garage has gravel floors so the cardboard is a great idea. So set it underneath the coach in the rear? Just want to make sure I get it right.
Yes from the back bumper to the rear tires will cover all the motor
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We have all been spoiled ever since auto makers switched to rack & pinion steering which is precise. The old ball screw steering is still used on trucks and our Palazzos. There is play in the system so you end up constantly moving the steering wheel left & right. My older cars drove the same way, so I really appreciate the rack & pinion steering. The ball screw can be slack adjusted to minimize it, but not totally eliminate it.

Just drove from Ohio to Florida and fought the wind all the way along with the road surface ruts. Never got blown into the other lane but did get on the white lane line. You've got to remember that you have a lot of surface area for the wind to hit. DW drives and refers to the coach as a Volkswagen Van on steroids. :-)

Passing semi trucks are a thrill. Pushes to the right as they come up on you and then pulls to the left as they pass.
I have noticed a significant difference in type of semis. Tank trucks push less. if little traffic in front I check the rear view mirror to gauge how much push to expect based on speed and type of oncoming semi.
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I have been reading this thread with a lot of interest. I have also noticed steering issues when there are gusts of wind, grooves in the highway, or passing trucks. I'm trying to decide whether it is worthwhile purchasing a Safe-T-Plus steering control. Does anyone have an estimate of the percentage of the Palazzos on the road that have some type of after market steering stabilizer? Is it worth it? I think I will need one if I want other family members to drive too.
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I have been reading this thread with a lot of interest. I have also noticed steering issues when there are gusts of wind, grooves in the highway, or passing trucks. I'm trying to decide whether it is worthwhile purchasing a Safe-T-Plus steering control. Does anyone have an estimate of the percentage of the Palazzos on the road that have some type of after market steering stabilizer? Is it worth it? I think I will need one if I want other family members to drive too.
Wellllllll I give you my side. And there will be more on the other side. That's what I had on mine and did not like it. It for me stiffened up the feel on the steering wheel. Didn't se to make much difference.

I just now drove 170 mile in some nasty cross/wind and mine does just fine without it

As for the front tire blowout protection. Well I guess I m just gambling I not have a blow out???

I had it on my coach for 3200 mile.

I believe the best thing I ve done is take some air out of the tires . I set all mine at 87 pounds when I left home. It was 42 degree at home. I just drove 170 mile and now tires are at 98 pounds. I'll need to let some air out when I get to warmer country. I want them at 90 pounds.

Don't get me wrong. I think the Safe-T-Steer is good product. Just didn't like the feel for me???

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You could have posted your photos without referencing my post so it would appear that my post hit a nerve and you are soliciting a response from me.
First off I have never said anything about this being normal to happen but in the big scheme of things you are in the minority. Thousands of Palazzos are out there operating their slides trouble free.
From your forum name "Palazzoblues" to the endless posts basically saying the same thing it would appear that you are grinding your ax and you want others to join in your pain. Of your 82 posts the vast majority are discussing your slide problems and basically saying the same thing. Saying it again in bold RED type with pictures doesn’t make your problem any more understandable.
I can only feel sorry for your misfortune for so long and I have expressed my regrets several times in the past. Please tell us exactly what you expect other Palazzo owners to do to help you get through this issue? You posting your problem over and over may make you feel better but little else.
I am sorry if I offend anyone for my comments. There is an awful lot of push back to make me stop posting about my problems. I have just as much right to post my experiences with my Palazzo as everyone else has. If your experience is a good one and you want to talk about steering stabilizers and upgrades you would like to make to an otherwise perfect Palazzo, that is fine with me. I will not bash you, suggest you stop posting or flame you. Please understand, when Thor makes this right, which I am totally giving them the opportunity to do, I will stop posting the negatives and hopefully I can begin to post some positives. In fact, at this point we are so disgusted about the whole mess I doubt you will see me posting anything at all. I know that will be best for ALL of us.
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I am sorry if I offend anyone for my comments. There is an awful lot of push back to make me stop posting about my problems. I have just as much right to post my experiences with my Palazzo as everyone else has. If your experience is a good one and you want to talk about steering stabilizers and upgrades you would like to make to an otherwise perfect Palazzo, that is fine with me. I will not bash you, suggest you stop posting or flame you. Please understand, when Thor makes this right, which I am totally giving them the opportunity to do, I will stop posting the negatives and hopefully I can begin to post some positives. In fact, at this point we are so disgusted about the whole mess I doubt you will see me posting anything at all. I know that will be best for ALL of us.
I have made some inroads to my legal department. I am a Corp Exec.
(Not in the RV world. LOL)
They have all informed me that the lemon law was created for people in your shoes. If you are so displeased, why have you not investigated this direction?

Back in December, you posted that your vendor was allowing you an option of a new coach? Is this option still on the table?
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I have made some inroads to my legal department. I am a Corp Exec.
(Not in the RV world. LOL)
They have all informed me that the lemon law was created for people in your shoes. If you are so displeased, why have you not investigated this direction?

Back in December, you posted that your vendor was allowing you an option of a new coach? Is this option still on the table?

Maxtgam,

That is a productive reply, thank you. There is no lemon law in my state, NC, for RV's. There is however a lemon law for motor vehicles up to a certain GVWR. There is the Federal law which is theMagnuson–Moss Warranty Act. I think the federal lemon law falls under this one. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

I will preface this following comment by saying I have not retained an attorney nor am I seeking any legal advice from one at this time. (This is in worries that my posts could be removed if I mention anything about pending or future litigation). However, I have talked to some people in the law profession who have told me that if I do pursue any legal action I will no longer be able to speak out about my problems or work with Thor or Camping World myself. It will be in the lawyers hands at that point. I also have a friend who has a Winne that she has been without for over 200 days and she has been in that "endless" lawsuit cycle.

With that said, yes Thor and Camping World appears to be working with us. Tomorrow, Jan 15th is supposed to be the day we know something. Am I holding my breath? No, not really.
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I've not had the handling issues. At one point I put a Stablizer on the steering. Didn't like that and took it off.

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Can you tell me what stabilizer you tried. I have not driven in windy conditions yet but plan to this summer.
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I have noticed a significant difference in type of semis. Tank trucks push less. if little traffic in front I check the rear view mirror to gauge how much push to expect based on speed and type of oncoming semi.
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Do you use a steering stabilizer? Which one.
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