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06-20-2013, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Butte64
It is great that we have the LBCU with all the data available but it is surprisingly difficult to find out what maximum temps are allowed. There is a warning about not shutting down when engine temp is over 194 but other than that info seems lacking. With this hotter weather I have been paying more attention to temps although have not driven much. Seems as though thermostat does not kick in until engine temp hits 195 and it has gone over 200 a few times before dropping back to 190.
Don't know what max allowable transmission temp is.
Anyone have a better source of information?
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The rule of thumb is the same temp that would be considered over heating on your engine is too hot for your tranny. I tow a heavy trailer with my 33.2 through the Colorado mountains. I constantly monitor transmission temp on the monitor. I have never seen my tranny temp go over 200. If it ever got up to 220-225 I would stop
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06-20-2013, 11:53 AM
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#632
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Mount Olive Shores North, FL
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Originally Posted by RVRandy
I cut a 1" wide strip out using a jig saw that runs from top to bottom of the black panel. I left an inch of material top and bottom so the panel is still one piece. This way it works like a sight glass and I can check the water level but still keep the panel in place. I wanted to keep the panel since I don't want anything rubbing the water tank and eventually wearing a hole in it.
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Great idea!
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2017 Grand Cherokee
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06-20-2013, 11:56 AM
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#633
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Mount Olive Shores North, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVRandy
The rule of thumb is the same temp that would be considered over heating on your engine is too hot for your tranny. I tow a heavy trailer with my 33.2 through the Colorado mountains. I constantly monitor transmission temp on the monitor. I have never seen my tranny temp go over 200. If it ever got up to 220-225 I would stop
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Thanks. What is your take on what the monitor is reading when it says Engine Temp - is that coolant temp or oil temp?
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2017 Grand Cherokee
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06-20-2013, 09:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVRandy
I cut a 1" wide strip out using a jig saw that runs from top to bottom of the black panel. I left an inch of material top and bottom so the panel is still one piece. This way it works like a sight glass and I can check the water level but still keep the panel in place. I wanted to keep the panel since I don't want anything rubbing the water tank and eventually wearing a hole in it.
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Great idea on the sight gauge. I suppose the DEF boxes could rub the tank. I probably use your idea an cut mine out and put it back. That is if you don't have a patent on it. Ha
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06-21-2013, 03:54 AM
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#635
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Butte64
Great idea!
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+1.... Stealing this idea. Good stuff!
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2014 Thor Palazzo 33.3 (Melody), Folkstone
2017 Jeep Rubicon, Ready Brute Elite & Currie Ent Baseplate
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06-22-2013, 04:26 PM
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#636
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Location: Mount Olive Shores North, FL
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Electrical Current Draw
I only have a 15 Amp power connection for the Palazzo at home so I was curious about the current draw. I got a clamp ammeter and got these results:
Refrigerator and absorb charging. 12.3 A dropping down to 7 when charging 14.5 V 47A then down to 2A when at Float charge 13.3 V 4 A
Charger off
AC start 29 A Quickly down to 16 A 117V
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06-22-2013, 05:56 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Coach Weight
Today on our way out of the FMCA Gillette Rally we had our coach weighted - 4 corners with the following results;
Drivers Side. Passengers Side. Total
Front 3550.....3725..................7275
Rear. 8000.....8150.................16,150
.............................................23,42 5
Very pleased with the numbers and a little surprised that my left to right is so close. According to these numbers I can lower my tire pressure front and rear by 5 psi. Front will be adjusted to 90 psi and rear to 100 psi.
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06-22-2013, 09:16 PM
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Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Carolina Campers
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Originally Posted by TheArnolds
Today on our way out of the FMCA Gillette Rally we had our coach weighted - 4 corners with the following results;
Drivers Side. Passengers Side. Total
Front 3550.....3725..................7275
Rear. 8000.....8150.................16,150
.............................................23,42 5
Very pleased with the numbers and a little surprised that my left to right is so close. According to these numbers I can lower my tire pressure front and rear by 5 psi. Front will be adjusted to 90 psi and rear to 100 psi. 
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Used the air connection in the gen compartment today for the first time to air up tires. 90 front, 95 rears.
Even air'ed up the next door coach.
Great figure on our rigs.
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06-23-2013, 05:28 AM
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: Madisonville, La.
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I was also wondering about the Palazzo weight, this is good information for all of us. What was your fuel, fresh water, tank data during your weigh in? Do you have an idea of how much weight you put into coach?
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06-23-2013, 06:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridinbear
I was also wondering about the Palazzo weight, this is good information for all of us. What was your fuel, fresh water, tank data during your weigh in? Do you have an idea of how much weight you put into coach?
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I had just below 3/4 fuel, fresh water tank 2/3 full by observing the tank, not the gage. Gray and Black were almost empty. This weight also included the tongue weight of my tow dolly with Toad loaded.
I have no idea how much personal stuff we have on board by weight however we were packed for a 4 week trip so we were heavy. We carry a large grill (Weber Q 220) plus a 20 lbs LP tank for the grill, 4 fold up lawn chairs plus my wifes fold up gravity recliner, fold up 4 ft table. I have a good assortment of tools, cleaning gear, 6 ft ladder, golf clubs, etc. in other words the basement is getting full but not totally.
BTW, this also included my DW and I for a total of 360 lbs, we remained in our seats during the weighting to count us in the 4 point total.
This is why I am very pleased with the results, I can add an additional 2,575 lbs before I reach our max of 26,000 lbs or 2,775 before we hit our combined weight, coach, dolly and toad of 30,000. Remember you can store extra items in your toad that will not fit in the coach.
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06-23-2013, 10:05 AM
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#641
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Location: Mount Olive Shores North, FL
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Since i was curious to see what more information was available on our Cummins engine I ordered the full Operation and Maintenance Manual for the ISB6.7.
It is large and includes a DVD. It does not have much more on operation of our engines than what is in the small booklet we got with the Palazzo but has a wealth of information on maintenance.
With shipping it is over $60.
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2017 Grand Cherokee
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06-23-2013, 05:28 PM
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Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Lake Barrington, IL
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Where did you acquire the manual and DVD?
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06-23-2013, 06:40 PM
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#643
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Location: Mount Olive Shores North, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by js43
Where did you acquire the manual and DVD?
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Ordered from Cummins. Check in your Cummins manual and call to order. They have a website but the manual is not listed there so call. DVD is included in the manual.
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06-23-2013, 06:58 PM
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#644
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Madisonville, La.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheArnolds
I had just below 3/4 fuel, fresh water tank 2/3 full by observing the tank, not the gage. Gray and Black were almost empty. This weight also included the tongue weight of my tow dolly with Toad loaded.
I have no idea how much personal stuff we have on board by weight however we were packed for a 4 week trip so we were heavy. We carry a large grill (Weber Q 220) plus a 20 lbs LP tank for the grill, 4 fold up lawn chairs plus my wifes fold up gravity recliner, fold up 4 ft table. I have a good assortment of tools, cleaning gear, 6 ft ladder, golf clubs, etc. in other words the basement is getting full but not totally.
BTW, this also included my DW and I for a total of 360 lbs, we remained in our seats during the weighting to count us in the 4 point total.
This is why I am very pleased with the results, I can add an additional 2,575 lbs before I reach our max of 26,000 lbs or 2,775 before we hit our combined weight, coach, dolly and toad of 30,000. Remember you can store extra items in your toad that will not fit in the coach. 
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Thank You very much for the great information. What tire chart did you use to determine the inflation?
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