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07-10-2017, 12:23 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Central Arkansas
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Suggestions for Toad Braking
I'm looking for some input on the type of braking system for towing my 2011 Honda CR-V. The RV is a Palazzo 33.2. The Honda weighs about 3100 lbs. The service manager where I purchased said that the 33.2 would handle the CR-V just fine on its own, but to be legal I'd need some sort of braking assist. He showed me the SMI Air Force One as the high end ($2500 installed) and the 39500 Digital Classic Braking Buddy as the low end (($1200). I'm curious as to what the group's experience has been using the Palazzo to pull a vehicle and the type of braking assist that has worked (or not).
Advice appreciated!
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Mike & Mary, Hobie (Springer) & Baxter (Devil Dog)
2020 Newmar Kountry Star (Anna Karina)
2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk (Toad)
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07-10-2017, 12:32 PM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Columbus, OH
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Jim & Sandy, Columbus, OH
2018 Thor Aria 3601
FMCA-F434648, TDC, FCOC
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07-10-2017, 12:40 PM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, MS
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I highly recommend the NSA ReadyBrake system! We have the ReadyBrute Elite towbars with built-in ReadyBrake, but you can buy it separately! Don't understand why anyone would pay big bucks for the fancy ones out there when this one will get the job done, simply!
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Joe & Annette
Sometimes I sits and thinks, sometimes I just sits.....
2002 Monaco Windsor 40PBT, 2013 Honda CRV AWD
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07-10-2017, 12:46 PM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Jamestown, NC
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I had the Invisibrake installed in my Jeep Liberty. Easy to hook up with no problems. Now I'm using Brake Buddy Vantage Select. It too is good but there are a few more steps involved in getting it hooked up. But the advantage of using it is that it can be easily transferred to another vehicle.
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Gary and Kay & Chipper
2018 Thor Tuscany 38SQ
2019 Ford Ranger XLT Super Crew
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07-10-2017, 12:54 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
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I'd recommend the RoadMaster BrakeMaster 9160 unit. Been using one for many years with no trouble
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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07-10-2017, 12:56 PM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Roseville, Ca
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In my option it really comes down to personal preference. Cost, reliability, warranty & service, and how much is involved in hooking/unhooking your toad. For me, I choose the SMI Air Force1. It is installed on my 14 Honda CRV. It requires no more work than hook up and go. No fuse pulling/disabling or brake armature to set up every time. It can be removed and reinstalled but it will take 4 about hours to do that. My toad is the only thing I will be towing so it wasn't that difficult of a decision. Other systems require you to attach an armature to the brake petal and plug in to the 12v adapter for power and possibly pulling/disabling a fuse. The other factor that some are concerned about is with the AF1 you'll have to tap into the existing air line for pressure to the braking piston installed on the brake petal.
Do your research and get several bids to suit your needs...
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2016 Thor Palazzo 33.2
14 Honda CRV, Roadmaster Tow Bar, Air Force 1
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07-10-2017, 12:58 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
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Location: Home in warm Sou Calif for the winter.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSHappyCampers
I highly recommend the NSA ReadyBrake system! We have the ReadyBrute Elite towbars with built-in ReadyBrake, but you can buy it separately! Don't understand why anyone would pay big bucks for the fancy ones out there when this one will get the job done, simply!
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Joe, have you had any problems with the cable rubbing and wearing in the cable guide? I installed one on a friends jeep and he is concerned that the cable may shread from the rubbing.
Ron
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2013 Tiffin Phaeton 42LH 400 ISL | 2011 GMC Terrain SLT-2
Roadmaster All Terrain | US Gear Unified Brake System | Pressure Pro
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07-10-2017, 01:17 PM
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Thor Owners Club
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I know of one instance that that the cable wore and broke. Mine has worn the plastic sheath on the cable where it goes through the guide but the steel cable is unaffected. Easy to inspect when connecting. I learned the hard way to use a bungee cord from the brake pedal to the front seat to keep the pedal pulled back when the brake isn't being applied.
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Jim & Sandy, Columbus, OH
2018 Thor Aria 3601
FMCA-F434648, TDC, FCOC
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07-10-2017, 02:25 PM
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Member
Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Siverlake, WA
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Suggestions for Toad Braking
Thought I would add one more to the mix. We tow a jeep wrangler with the Blue Ox system. Tow bar, light wiring and braking system. The braking unit sits on the drivers side floor and connects to the brake pedal. As mentioned it does need to plug into a 12volt source. However it does have an internal battery in the unit. Easy connect and found the whole system online at hitchsource.com. The brake unit was about $1,100 and has worked well coast to coast over the last 2 plus years.
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Ron & Diane
2019 Entegra Insignia 37MB
2017 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk - Blue Ox tow system
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07-10-2017, 02:54 PM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Austin TX
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I like my Even Brake. Fairly simple to setup unit for towing; removable clamp on brake pedal, plug for radio linked unit on motorhome dash and one into lighter socket. Run built-in test and adjust seat as needed. Takes longer to get it out of bay and walk back to truck than it does to setup.
I did the installation myself in a couple of hours. Hardest part was adding a switch to the brake pedal bracket, which is not required for all vehicles. It was only hard because I am 6' 3" and nowhere as thin as I used to be. lol
Looks like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...rds=even+brake
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2014 Thor Palazzo 33.3
2009 Chevrolet Silverado toad, Remco Driveshaft Disconnect, Garmin 760LMT GPS
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07-10-2017, 04:24 PM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club
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Location: Jensen Beach, FL
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I use the Blue Ox tow bar set-up with the Brake Buddy Vantage unit to tow my 5215 lb Jeep with not problems!
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2017 Tuscany 38 SQ
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel, 2016 Ram 1500 Eco-Diesel, Jensen Beach, FL
FMCA-F437958, Cummins PC, FCOC & TDC,
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07-10-2017, 04:32 PM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Columbus, MS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lanerd
Joe, have you had any problems with the cable rubbing and wearing in the cable guide? I installed one on a friends jeep and he is concerned that the cable may shread from the rubbing.
Ron
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Nope. The only thing negative I have read was about the cables being crimped with the insulating jacket inside the clamp.
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Joe & Annette
Sometimes I sits and thinks, sometimes I just sits.....
2002 Monaco Windsor 40PBT, 2013 Honda CRV AWD
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07-10-2017, 06:12 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Central Arkansas
Posts: 94
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Any problem with the Vantage Select running down your car battery?
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Mike & Mary, Hobie (Springer) & Baxter (Devil Dog)
2020 Newmar Kountry Star (Anna Karina)
2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk (Toad)
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07-10-2017, 06:56 PM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Jamestown, NC
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There is a wire running in the harness that connects to the battery and it keeps it charged.
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2018 Thor Tuscany 38SQ
2019 Ford Ranger XLT Super Crew
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