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Old 07-22-2012, 10:56 AM   #85
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I think I just answered my own question; Freightliner chassis manual at:
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:02 PM   #86
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Hello Jerry,

My husband says the gauges 1 and 2 are for the two brake systems front and rear. One problem we had was the back tires have valve extensions, but the front tires do not have valve extensions so could not check the air pressure on the front without taking the hub caps off. We paid to have extensions put on.

Check the shelves in the fridge. The door has to be taken off to adjust the shelves. They had two of our shelves three inches apart. It took 3 weeks for our dealership to fix the problems we had. We now realize the dealership did not do the job they should have done on preparing coach for deliver. However, it was over the 4th of July, so maybe that was part of the problem.
We had it back one day and notice fluid leaking from the coolant for the hydrolic lifts. So now we are waiting to get a new coolant before we can use it again. That will be four of the six weeks we have had the coach that we could not use it. Thor has been wonderful in helping with all the problems.

The dealership technicians have been less than knowledgable on what to do and how to do it in a timely manner. I would rather not say who the dealership is; however, if we have to wait three weeks this time for repairs, I will certainly let you know.

There is no manual for the Palazzo per se. It is a generic manual for all Thor coaches. I called Thor and that is what they told me.
Suzette,
I was hoping someone else would respond to your refrigerator shelf issue. We were so suprised to read about removing the door that we went online to see if we could find that fridge and what it said about shelves. What we found said that depending on model lift either front OR rear of shelf to pick it up and move to another location. Hard to imagine a fridge maker that would make it so difficult to move shelves.

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Old 07-22-2012, 05:41 PM   #87
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I was hoping someone else would respond to your refrigerator shelf issue. We were so suprised to read about removing the door that we went online to see if we could find that fridge and what it said about shelves. What we found said that depending on model lift either front OR rear of shelf to pick it up and move to another location. Hard to imagine a fridge maker that would make it so difficult to move shelves.

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I do not understand Suzette's frig shelf problem? I have adjusted a couple of shelves for my DW and I did not need to remove the door. All I did is slide the shelf forward an inch or two and lift one side and it came out. I repositioned and reversed the process < 1 minute.
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Jack,
Thanks for the great and thorough information.
My wife was astonished at that big bag of manuals for all the different systems!
You are absolutely correct that there is a lot more in the other manuals. I found the Palazzo manual online and was reading it on my iPad last night for more thorough understanding. On the Freightliner website I found an information brochure and some other excellent information but still don't see the complete manual. I looked at the Freightliner manual yesterday and was impressed with the level of detail on some things and the number of options available on the main display panel. Please let me know if you have a link to the complete Chassis manual.

Thanks for the info on the air pressure gauges. I figured it must be something like that.

Another thing I noticed on the Freightliner site is they have a class available in Gaffney, SC, which is much closer than Elkhart. If I go with the Palazzo I will be looking further into that.

I saw what looked like an air hose connector in the generator compartment. Unfortunately all the technicians were gone by the time we got down into the details. The salesman has only been there 4 months so is still learning. Even I know an exhaust brake and an engine (Jake) brake are two different things even though they serve the same purpose.

Does your coach have a very small pushbutton type switch in the far upper left corner of the windshield? It is not attached to the body, just hanging down slightly up where the window shade goes up. Salesman thought it might have something to do with satellite antenna. It is way too far up to be reached while driving.
I am sure that Freightliner, Cummings, Allison, etc. have online manuals because I have read where other people have downloaded them but I have been using my paper manuals that came with my coach.
The air hose connector in the generator compartment is the manifold I mentioned where you can connect an air hose and attach other accessories like an air horn…my DW will not let me have one
The Camp Freightliner in Gaffney is at the Freightliner plant. Freightliner will conduct these classes at their plant or at the coach manufacturer’s plants. Elkhart is closer to my home in Ohio and the class is tailored to my coach. Some people have taken both and I may consider going to Gaffney and take the class again so I can see the Freightliner plant. In Gaffney you can even make a service appointment while you attend the class.
To be honest I did notice the small button up behind the windshield screen and I figured that it was an override in case the switch on the dash did not work and you need to raise the screen…just a guess but now I need to know so I will check it out the next time I go inside my coach. It is not for the satellite system. Everything is in the electronics cabinet behind the co-pilots seat.
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Thanks Jack, I am looking forward to what you find out about that small switch.

Meanwhile since I have diverged so much from the orginal thread I think I will start a new one.

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Thanks Jack, I am looking forward to what you find out about that small switch.

Meanwhile since I have diverged so much from the orginal thread I think I will start a new one.

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Jerry,

You are welcome and please let me know if I can be of any more help. So far we have been trouble free and we love everything about our Palazzo and I hope to bump into you somewhere down the road

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To be honest I did notice the small button up behind the windshield screen and I figured that it was an override in case the switch on the dash did not work and you need to raise the screen…just a guess but now I need to know so I will check it out the next time I go inside my coach. It is not for the satellite system. Everything is in the electronics cabinet behind the co-pilots seat.

Jack, I have to know about the mystry switch....what does it do??
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To be honest I did notice the small button up behind the windshield screen and I figured that it was an override in case the switch on the dash did not work and you need to raise the screen…just a guess but now I need to know so I will check it out the next time I go inside my coach. It is not for the satellite system. Everything is in the electronics cabinet behind the co-pilots seat.

Jack, I have to know about the mystry switch....what does it do??
I went to my MH the other day and I did push the switch and nothing happened. I raised the screen up and pushed it and again nothing happened. I was in a bit of a hurry so I need to play with it some more to try and figure out its purpose.

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I went to my MH the other day and I did push the switch and nothing happened. I raised the screen up and pushed it and again nothing happened. I was in a bit of a hurry so I need to play with it some more to try and figure out its purpose.

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Thanks for trying.
I wish the owners manual had more info.

Speaking of info, do you know of a good single source guide for a newbie on what is needed? Skimming the forums I read about stuff to put in holding tanks, the value of a clear section or elbow in dump line, the need for a special water line with pressure regulator, power line conditioner, et.
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To be honest I did notice the small button up behind the windshield screen and I figured that it was an override in case the switch on the dash did not work and you need to raise the screen…just a guess but now I need to know so I will check it out the next time I go inside my coach. It is not for the satellite system. Everything is in the electronics cabinet behind the co-pilots seat.

Jack, I have to know about the mystry switch....what does it do??
Our service advisor said not to worry about the little black button. It assist in the proper syncronizing of the night shade. The full instructions will be available in the Palazzo Owners Manual which is scheduled to be released December 2014.

My husband says the second function is "it is a self destruction button"with a Palazzo 30 second delay so you can get out quickly.
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Our service advisor said not to worry about the little black button. It assist in the proper syncronizing of the night shade. The full instructions will be available in the Palazzo Owners Manual which is scheduled to be released December 2014.

My husband says the second function is "it is a self destruction button"with a Palazzo 30 second delay so you can get out quickly.
No Palazzo manual until December 2014? That is a long time. I wonder if they need some extra help in their manual writing department.
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Our service advisor said not to worry about the little black button. It assist in the proper syncronizing of the night shade. The full instructions will be available in the Palazzo Owners Manual which is scheduled to be released December 2014.

My husband says the second function is "it is a self destruction button"with a Palazzo 30 second delay so you can get out quickly.
Thanks, and now we know. Next time I go look at a Palazzo, I will ask the sales person what it is....just to be mean....ha ha

I am still looking. My shopping is done as I have gotten the best price with in several hundred miles of my home. My question is whether we will use it enough to justify the cost.
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Thanks for trying.
I wish the owners manual had more info.

Speaking of info, do you know of a good single source guide for a newbie on what is needed? Skimming the forums I read about stuff to put in holding tanks, the value of a clear section or elbow in dump line, the need for a special water line with pressure regulator, power line conditioner, et.
There are many chemicals you can put in your holding tank. I have used Thetford Company packets for 30 years and they have served me well. One packet per 40 gallon of tank size. I seldom let my tank get that full. In hot WX, I use two packets. To clear your black water tank, wait until it is pretty full for a good flow. Twice a year, I pull up to my drive way and put a hose in the toilet and put 20 or so gallons of water and a box of baking soda through the toilet (water pump off) and move my Bounder back into the barn, stopping a time or two to mix the water and soda. I let it sit a day or two, put in two packs of Thetford deodorant, use it on a day or two trip and dump....never had a problem.

A clear section in the dump line...never saw a need for it. Any RV store sells a pressure regulator to use if you hook up to a "city" water line. I have a 100 gallon tank and seldom need to hook up to city water.

Everyone has their own way of doing things...you will learn by trial and error. This just happens to be my way. Good luck and have fun.
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Great info George, thanks.
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