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Old 03-02-2022, 08:12 AM   #1
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2022 Outdoors RV East Coast Rally

2022 Outdoors RV East Coast Rally

Where: Winhall Brook Camping Area, South Londonderry Vermont.
919 Winhall Station Rd, South Londonderry, VT 05155

When: September 16, 17 & 18, 2022 (some of us will stay longer)

Reservations: Book your site here >> https://www.recreation.gov/camping/c...?tab=campsites
There is a 6 month booking window, with a 14 day maximum stay. Booking window is now open! Book early! Water & electric sites are high in demand.

Campground Map: https://cdn.recreation.gov/webphotos...73483_BALM.pdf

This Army Corps of Engineer's campground has 111 campsites, 14 having lean-to shelters and 23 being water & electric sites (which are in high demand). The campground is broken into two sections, a North side and South side. The South side is accessed via a narrow, single lane bridge (16 ton limit) that spans the Winhall brook/river, (see the map and post #54 here). Common courtesy is given to camping rigs crossing the bridge. Dry campers can fill their fresh water tanks at check-in, before heading into the campground.

All Outdoors RV owners, current or future, friends & family are welcome to attend the 2022 ORV East Coast Rally.

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ATTENDEES LIST, Updated when we get confirmation from a member.
Last update 04/23/22, we have 20 campsites reserved!

Site S36 - Leaf-Peeper, 9/15 to 9/19 (Wagon Masters - Ted & Karen)
Site S09 - Ted&Connie, 9/14 to 9/20 (Ted & Connie)

Site S17 - kcfissel, 9/13 to 9/20 (Ken & Vicky)
Site L09 - DCC, 9/13 to 9/18 (Doug & Deanna)
Site N10 - hikermom718, 9/15 to 9/19 (Kathy & Gerry)
Site S40 - Cornbinder, 9/15 to 9/19 (Cliff & Diane)
Site S38 - wyocampers, 9/15 to 9/19
Site S08 - Paul FitzGerald, 9/14 to 9/19
Site S13 - seaeagle2, 9/16 to 9/18 (Russ & Lisa)
Site S39 - Santana, 9/15 to 9/19 (Bernie & Carol)
Site S14 - Karen & Jeff, 9/16 to 9/18
Site S42 - NEcamper, 9/16 to 9/19 (Steve & Rene)
Site S15 - Liz & Joe, 9/16 to 9/18 (Liz & Joe)
Site S21 - milmomx2, 9/15 to 9/18 (Dave & Sharon)
Site S19 - James_ORV, 9/16 to 9/20 (James)
Site S12 - maxfam, 9/15 to 9/18 (Clark & Susan)
Site S23 - DaveRouth, 9/5 to 9/19 (Dave & Pam)
Site S24 - Rhonda & Joe 9/15 to 9/22 (Rhonda & Joe)
Site S37 - Roger & Kat, 9/16 to 9/19 (Roger & Kat)
Site S10 - Andra & Dale, 9/16 to 9/19 (Andra & Dale)


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Some things to do in the area:

Bicycling - Bicycles are a great way to get around this campground. The West River rail trail heads out from the south end of the campground to the Ball Mountain Dam, then continues onward to nearby Jamaica State Park.

Picnicking - A great scenic view from the picnic shelter at nearby Ball Mountain Dam. Good cellular coverage here too. Hapgood Pond in Peru is nice (day use, fee).

Hiking - Angel Falls is a ~ 1 hour hike each way from nearby Ball Mountain Dam. Great hiking/walking on the West River rail trail between the campground and nearby Jamaica State Park (also the Overlook trail and Hamilton Falls trail).

Kayaking (flat water) - Located at nearby Lowell Lake State Park in Londonderry (day use, free)

Stargazing - Good opportunities here when skies are clear. Bring a recliner chair, or telescope if you've got one.

Adventure - Bromely Mountain in Peru. Disk golf, Alpine slide, Giant Swing, Aerial park, etc.

Shopping (essentials) - Lunch, gas & convenience in Rawsonville. Gas, full grocery, hardware & pharmacy stores in Londonderry.

Shopping (tourist) - The Vermont Country Store in Weston. Shops, restaurants & box stores in Manchester.

Farmers Market - West River Farmers Market, Saturdays 9am to 1pm in Londonderry.



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Old 03-03-2022, 12:25 PM   #2
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Thanks for stepping up to drive the bus.

Vicki and I are interested, pending yet another trip plan to head to Newfoundland this fall. There are a lot of details for us to resolve before we commit to crossing the Canadian border.

We had a great time at last year's get together, and look forward to making this one as well.

I'll be booking asap, prolly arriving Wednesday before & pulling out the following Tuesday.
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Old 03-06-2022, 06:26 AM   #3
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General Campground Layout

General Campground Layout

North Side - Mostly open, spacious, grassy sites
  • Sites N29 through 36 are in a open area (safari camping)
  • Sites N15 & N16 are close together and share a common access way
  • Some lean-to sites will accommodate a tow-behind
  • There is a dump station, bathhouse, dish washing station and picnic pavilion (can be reserved for group use)


South Side (via the bridge) - Mostly open, spacious, grassy sites
  • Water/electric sites (S6 through S28) spaced a bit closer together, but not cramped
  • Sites S29 through S35 are well shaded with pine trees, less sunshine
  • Sites S37 through S45 are open & grassy, riverside sites are smaller & close to the road (The Wagon Master's site will be in this area)
  • Sites S46 through S52 are in a open field, against the wood line, expect some tenter's
  • Sites S56 & S57 are close together, as are lean-to sites L53 & L54
  • Sites S59 through S64 a common area with river access, popular with tow-behind units
  • Sites S67 through S75 are in a open area, far away, can be a tenter's area
  • There is a dual dump station, bathhouses with dish washing stations at either end
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Since I've yet to take possession of our 28BKS, I'm looking for some opinions on whether getting across that bridge is going to be a concern if I'm pulling it with a Ram 3500 8 ft bed and Propride hitch. I watched that video of the 3500 + 5th wheel and boy did that look "fun". I don't mind staying on the Nort side, but if you think I can make it across the bridge, I'd consider that side also.

...and Leaf-Peeper thanks for organizing this and the campsite info!
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Since I've yet to take possession of our 28BKS, I'm looking for some opinions on whether getting across that bridge is going to be a concern if I'm pulling it with a Ram 3500 8 ft bed and Propride hitch....
That's a good video. They really had the right idea. If their truck wasn't a dually, it probably would have been flawless.

DCC: My guess is your Ram 3500 w/8' foot bed (169.5" WB?) and shiny new 28BKS (32', 8" length) and added Propride hitch might be happier if setup on the north side of the campground.

We've had not had a problem getting across the bridge. We just keep a careful eye in the passenger side mirror to be sure the camper tires clear the bridge's wooden curbing.

So how of long a travel trailer can you have and not have trouble getting across? I'm thinking bumper tow campers here, so fifth wheels of similar size should have it easier.
  • The longer the distance between the hitch ball and camper axles, the tougher it could be getting across unscathed.
  • For every 2 feet of camper length you might have over ours, that probably adds ~ 1 foot more to that critical hitch ball to camper axle distance.
  • Our crew cab truck with 6-1/2' bed has a 157" wheelbase and our 24RKS camper length is 28', 8".
  • But, we also run a Propride hitch, which adds about another 12" of distance between the truck and camper axles. So maybe that mimics a 30', 8"-ish long camper, but without the extra foot stuck out in the back. My guess is a camper that's a little longer than that (~ 1 foot?) should really be okay, but it largely depends on who's behind the wheel.
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Where can I find that video, I'm not seeing it. Our camper is 35' and we drive a Chevy with an 8 ft bed, single rear wheel. Before we book would like to know if we can get over the bridge. Thanks
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Where can I find that video, I'm not seeing it. Our camper is 35' and we drive a Chevy with an 8 ft bed, single rear wheel. Before we book would like to know if we can get over the bridge. Thanks
hikermom718: Booking on the north side of the campground would probably be best for your size camper (I'm thinking/remembering it's a bumper pull, not a fifth wheel?).

Here's the video, It's a 37' Montana fifth wheel and Dually Crewcab 3500 Ram. >>
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Leaf-Peeper: Thanks for the comprehensive reply. My gut was telling me the same thing so, I'm going to consider looking at the Nort side spots. Also, got lazy and didn't post that link for the bridge-crossing video, so thanks for doing that ... and would recommend that anyone considering joining us take a few minutes and watch it.
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Yes showed Gerry the video and we think it's just better to be on the north side of the campground. Thank you for posting it.
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We picked a spot

Early this AM I secured a spot for the rally.

I'm going to try to get across the bridge to site S17, arriving on 9/13 and heading out on 9/20.

Tha site we wanted was already booked, so I'm thinking folks are looking into that time frame already.
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Old 03-15-2022, 06:41 AM   #11
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kcfissel, glad your able to join us!

The booking reservation window is opening. There still appears to be 12 9 water/electric sites available at this moment for those who'll want one.



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Last update 03/15/22

Site S36 - Leaf-Peeper, 9/15 to 9/19 (Wagon Masters - Ted & Karen)
Site S09 - Ted&Connie, 9/14 to 9/20 (Ted & Connie)

Site S17 - kcfissel, 9/13 to 9/20 (Ken & Vicky)
Site N11 - DCC, 9/13 to 9/18 (Doug & Deanna)




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Just reserved our spot. Will be in N11 from the 13th to the 18th. I'm Doug and my wife is Deanna and we are looking forward to meeting everyone!
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Just booked our spot (N10) from September 15 to the 19th. We already have plans to go to Montana for 3 1/2 weeks but are not sure we will be making the trip so we have booked here just in case.

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DCC, Glad to have you aboard! Hope your new 28BKS shows up on time!

hikermom718, If the Montana trip doesn't work for you, we'll be happy to see you in Vermont!


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