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05-17-2022, 02:12 PM
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25RDS WD system
Hi all,
I just put a deposit on a new 2022 25RDS Mountain Series with 16” wheels. I will be taking delivery in a week or two.
The dealer only sells Husky brand weight distribution systems so I’ll be getting a new Equal-I-zer system and installing it myself. Thus these questions I ask of you.
My current set up is a Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD CC LB 4x4 6-liter vortec towing a 2014 Arctic Fox 25r. This Arctic Fox model is 27’3” long, loaded axle weight is 7320#. GVWR is 10k, same as 25rds. Im very happy with the 10k# Equal-I-zer on this trailer. Piece of cake in strong gusty winds, passing semis, and the ruts on I-80 over Donner Pass in CA.
So here’s my questions:
For new 25rds, 10k or 12k WD system?
What are you using with your truck?
What is ball receiver height on a leveled 25rds with 16” wheels?
The ball rests at 32” high when the truck is unhitched.
The shank is a 6 hole on its highest position. Wondering if I’ll need a taller shank?
Thanks in advance.
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05-17-2022, 02:14 PM
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Outdoors RV Owners Club
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Location: Warman, SK
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If you go to Equalizers site and input your measurements it will provide the recommended shank. There also is a tool for determining the recommended weight of equalizer.
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2015 Timber Ridge 260RLS
2019 Ram 3500 Bighorn 6.7L Cummins
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05-17-2022, 05:06 PM
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Location: Oregon
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I have 4 6V GC batteries up front. 4x100W solar panels on the front roof. Filled front storage with normal stuff. Under bed is full as well. Loaded up our TW is 1350lbs. I'm running near 9200- 9600lbs loaded.
Just thought I'd throw out a FWIW cause I think you may find the 25RDS TW heavier than you think. My 19 25RDS is a basic optioned TR. And the UVW sticker is around 7800lbs.
I have 2108 for CCC per sticker.
I'm using a Blue Ox 2000lb WDH.
There are several on here with 25RDS's so maybe they chime in.
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05-17-2022, 06:11 PM
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Outdoors RV Owners Club
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"What is ball receiver height on a leveled 25rds with 16” wheels?"
The receiver height on my 22FQS with 16" wheels is 32" high, should be the same.
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05-18-2022, 08:14 AM
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I have a 2022 Backcountry 24 KRS and it has a 1,360 lb tw loaded for our 5 month trip to Alaska. This includes the built in generator, full 100 gl fresh water tank and 10 gl hot water heater, a thick memory foam mattress and (3) 170W solar panels. Under the bed are (3) 100AH battleborns, Victron 3000 inverter, Victron dc-dc converter and a Victron mppt controller. I’m using an Equalizer with 1,400 lb bars on an AirSafe 20,000 lb hitch which is derated to 15,000 lbs with the Equalizer. I’m pulling with a 2021 GMC 3500HD Duramax. This is quite a bit but it gives you some idea if your going to be adding stuff later. I can give you my hitch height but I’m not sure it will help.
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05-18-2022, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
I have 4 6V GC batteries up front. 4x100W solar panels on the front roof. Filled front storage with normal stuff. Under bed is full as well. Loaded up our TW is 1350lbs. I'm running near 9200- 9600lbs loaded.
Just thought I'd throw out a FWIW cause I think you may find the 25RDS TW heavier than you think. My 19 25RDS is a basic optioned TR. And the UVW sticker is around 7800lbs.
I have 2108 for CCC per sticker.
I'm using a Blue Ox 2000lb WDH.
There are several on here with 25RDS's so maybe they chime in.
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I weighed my tongue on my 2022 25RDS and all loaded and ready to go it was just a hair under 1200lbs......I wonder, since the FW tank is behind the axles, how much difference it makes if its full vs. empty; any idea? I also have 4 - 6V GC's
Dave
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05-18-2022, 10:52 AM
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Excellent! With 16" wheels the top of the coupler will be about 30" when parallel to the ground.....ORV has recommended to me that the ball height should be at around 31-1/2" to 32". I measured several at Cordelia RV when we ordered ours. I am sure since they all have the same chassis the hitch height should be the same or at least close. I chose an Andersen WDH and needed the long shank to get to 31-1/2'. Andersen was very helpful. Have not seen the trailer yet though. Lets us know what you do and how it handles..Congrats!
Bill
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05-18-2022, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Pelletier
I weighed my tongue on my 2022 25RDS and all loaded and ready to go it was just a hair under 1200lbs......I wonder, since the FW tank is behind the axles, how much difference it makes if its full vs. empty; any idea? I also have 4 - 6V GC's
Dave
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Can't help you with that scenario. I've never weighed the tongue when the fresh was full that I know of. I'm in Oregon and all the weigh scales are on whether the stations closed or open. My fresh tanks never always full so it would be hit or miss on that. One thing for sure though when we do go dry camping it's not uncommon for us to have to haul the 80 gals divided between the black and grey 110 miles back to town to dump at a KOA because there's no dump stations anywhere on the way back home.
In that situation I'm over my average 1350 lbs FWIW.
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05-18-2022, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
Can't help you with that scenario. I've never weighed the tongue when the fresh was full that I know of. I'm in Oregon and all the weigh scales are on whether the stations closed or open. My fresh tanks never always full so it would be hit or miss on that. One thing for sure though when we do go dry camping it's not uncommon for us to have to haul the 80 gals divided between the black and grey 110 miles back to town to dump at a KOA because there's no dump stations anywhere on the way back home.
In that situation I'm over my average 1350 lbs FWIW.
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Thanks; I'm going to guess that the bulk of the 150lbs difference between our tongue weights is due to mine being weighed with a full FW tank......makes sense I suppose; tank is 70-ish USG's at 8.3 = 581 lbs. 150 lbs is 26% of the weight. So the three tanks could vary the tongue from 1200 to 1500-ish, depending which are full and which are empty.....or whatever percentage in-between. I typically vary from full FW/empty black and grey on the way to camp to maybe 50% FW, 25% black, 50% grey on the way back so between 1200 and 1300.
Dave
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05-18-2022, 12:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Pelletier
Thanks; I'm going to guess that the bulk of the 150lbs difference between our tongue weights is due to mine being weighed with a full FW tank......makes sense I suppose; tank is 70-ish USG's at 8.3 = 581 lbs. 150 lbs is 26% of the weight. So the three tanks could vary the tongue from 1200 to 1500-ish, depending which are full and which are empty.....or whatever percentage in-between. I typically vary from full FW/empty black and grey on the way to camp to maybe 50% FW, 25% black, 50% grey on the way back so between 1200 and 1300.
Dave
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Sounds about right. Far cry from the advertised 720lb dry TW. To be expected though. Sorta sneaks up on you.
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05-18-2022, 03:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
Sounds about right. Far cry from the advertised 720lb dry TW. To be expected though. Sorta sneaks up on you.
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No doubt!
Dave
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05-18-2022, 07:15 PM
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Not sure if this will help much but I just went out and measured my hitch hight (top of ball) for our 24RKS. IT MEASURED 31.75". That was how they set it up when I picked up the trailer. I do plan on checking the drop with no bars vs with bars next time I hook things up so I know where I'm at. It towed the 3hrs home great. Very smooth and true. There was a slight wind but not enough to matter really. The bars are marked 1000lb max tongue wt. 10000lb trailer wt. Trailer was basically empty of course. Propane tanks full and 4 6v AMG batteries and about 25 gal fresh water. Hope that helps
John
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05-18-2022, 11:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ol Bill
Excellent! With 16" wheels the top of the coupler will be about 30" when parallel to the ground.....ORV has recommended to me that the ball height should be at around 31-1/2" to 32". I measured several at Cordelia RV when we ordered ours. I am sure since they all have the same chassis the hitch height should be the same or at least close. I chose an Andersen WDH and needed the long shank to get to 31-1/2'. Andersen was very helpful. Have not seen the trailer yet though. Lets us know what you do and how it handles..Congrats!
Bill
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Ol Bill, small world. I bought mine from Cordelia also. Will take delivery on 6/2. The equalizer is set up very well for my Arctic Fox 25r. Seems like it should be easy with the new 25rds since current ball height on the truck is 32”. Congrats to you as well. What model did you order and when will you get it?
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05-18-2022, 11:27 PM
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Thanks for the replies everybody. The consensus is that loaded TW is well over the advertised 720#. One thing I noticed about this 25rds is that the axle placement is further aft than on my Arctic Fox 25r which would affect tongue weight. Though, now I’m curious about TW on the Fox. On that rig I have 4 x 200w panels on the roof. Under the bed are 4x100ah lithium batteries, Victron 3000w inverter, charge controller, battery monitor, and lots of stuff in pass through. Will install similar solar system in the 25rds.
I reckon I’ll opt for heavier bars though the 1k work fine on the Arctic Fox. Hard to imagine what TW is on the AF. I hope to weigh the new unit the day I take delivery before I start loading it up.
How does your truck ride with the 12-14k bars?
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