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Old 10-04-2019, 09:55 PM   #1
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Black water gage

This seems to be a common thing, but I’ll ask anyway. I don’t think we’ve ever got an accurate reading on that black water tank gage in our 27-5L. The other tanks will show one light when empty, but the black water pretty much always has at least 3 of the 4 lights lit (or 4 of 5 - I can’t remember). We use Happy Camper an use the exterior flushing feature thingy whenever we can. This year, by the suggestion of a friend of my wife’s, we put about a half cup of bleach and a gallon or two of water after emptying the tank. Now it shows full (all lights lit). 1) Did we mess something up? 2) If not, is there something we can do to get an accurate reading? Generally it’s not a big deal. Not too difficult to estimate and we’re usually in full hookup sites. But it would be nice to have this functioning correctly.
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Waste tank sensors/monitoring systems were designed by an evil engineer to cause irritation to RVs and mess up a good camping trip


They work on conductivity between 'level' sensor and the 'ground' sensor
ANYTHING stuck on side wall can created a current path.



One can spend way too much time/effort trying to keep the sensors clean enough to give semi-accurate readings ----until next time!


I haven't push the button on monitor to check levels since 2008


When toilet 'burps'---time to dump black tank
When sink(s) / shower starts to drain slower then usual......time to dump the grey tank
When water pump goes 'burrrruup'---should have already refilled the fresh water tank


Black piece of tape over the indicator lights helps too.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:17 PM   #3
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This seems to be a common thing, but I’ll ask anyway. I don’t think we’ve ever got an accurate reading on that black water tank gage in our 27-5L. The other tanks will show one light when empty, but the black water pretty much always has at least 3 of the 4 lights lit (or 4 of 5 - I can’t remember). We use Happy Camper an use the exterior flushing feature thingy whenever we can. This year, by the suggestion of a friend of my wife’s, we put about a half cup of bleach and a gallon or two of water after emptying the tank. Now it shows full (all lights lit). 1) Did we mess something up? 2) If not, is there something we can do to get an accurate reading? Generally it’s not a big deal. Not too difficult to estimate and we’re usually in full hookup sites. But it would be nice to have this functioning correctly.



I maintain our holding tanks assiduously, and they still have never worked accurately.


I am waiting for this to be released:


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By whispering small electronic signals to the tank probe system and carefully analyzing the response, Tank Whisper™ is able to determine the correct level of liquids in the tank. This even works for black tanks that have displayed nothing but “FULL” for years.


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Ditch the factory system and go with a See Level system. This is the best upgrade I've done to my AF:


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Almost ever black tank Ive ever seen reads two turds, (2/3rds) full at all time. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. You can use the black tank wash system if you have it, but trying to keep that guage working accurately is like beating your head on the wall. Cheers.
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Old Biscuit is spot on. When the fresh water overflows, it's full. When your pump runs but no water comes out, it's empty. When you flush the toilet and it doesn't go down, it's full. I'm like Old Bixcuit, I don't even use the indicators anymore. You spend way more time trying to make a failed system work than it's worth.
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I agree with the above post! I don't sweat it anymore. They do not work most of the time.
They weren't accurate when new. We get a lot more capacity than when we depended on the gauges indicating "full".

I was surprised to see the gray tank gauge working after towing for 200 miles at half full.
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check the ground wire on the back of the panel. i have a northwood, and it wasn't reading right. i pulled off the panel, and sure enough, i had a lose ground. Now it ready slightly more/less accurate. But definitely not spot on - black usually shows full after 2 or 3 flushes; i just ignore it.
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you can put ice cubes in your black holding tank before your next camping trip.as you drive down the highway the cubes will clean the tank and as the cubes melt you just dump when you get to the campground.
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