Anyone have Covid or had Covid?

[Dr Obbins]

My mother was bedridden in a nursing home for the past 4 years. After a heart attack that would have probably killed her without modern medicine, every day after was a bonus. Recently she was moved to a private room when 2 others in her area tested positive. They had many policies in place and hadn't had a single case yet. She was quarantined for a few weeks and with no more cases, the all clear was given and she returned to her room.

Shortly after that, I get a call from my brother that she is in the ICU with COVID. Her heart failed 3 days later. We buried her this past weekend after 82 years of life. So after just under a year without any cases, now 30% of all the residents and staff have COVID a few days after receiving their 1st vaccine shot. Theory is that the nurse giving the shots had COVID and gave it everyone in one day. We'll never know for sure.

[Solo_RV_Guy]

Originally Posted by Dr Obbins

My mother was bedridden in a nursing home for the past 4 years. After a heart attack that would have probably killed her without modern medicine, every day after was a bonus. Recently she was moved to a private room when 2 others in her area tested positive. They had many policies in place and hadn't had a single case yet. She was quarantined for a few weeks and with no more cases, the all clear was given and she returned to her room.

Shortly after that, I get a call from my brother that she is in the ICU with COVID. Her heart failed 3 days later. We buried her this past weekend after 82 years of life. So after just under a year without any cases, now 30% of all the residents and staff have COVID a few days after receiving their 1st vaccine shot. Theory is that the nurse giving the shots had COVID and gave it everyone in one day. We'll never know for sure.

My condolences on your mothers passing. May her memory be constant blessing to you.

[kdauto]

Originally Posted by Dr Obbins

My mother was bedridden in a nursing home for the past 4 years. After a heart attack that would have probably killed her without modern medicine, every day after was a bonus. Recently she was moved to a private room when 2 others in her area tested positive. They had many policies in place and hadn't had a single case yet. She was quarantined for a few weeks and with no more cases, the all clear was given and she returned to her room.

Shortly after that, I get a call from my brother that she is in the ICU with COVID. Her heart failed 3 days later. We buried her this past weekend after 82 years of life. So after just under a year without any cases, now 30% of all the residents and staff have COVID a few days after receiving their 1st vaccine shot. Theory is that the nurse giving the shots had COVID and gave it everyone in one day. We'll never know for sure.

Terribly sorry for your loss. Unfortunately, the same thing happened just a few blocks from home. A senior citizen's facility was getting vaccine administered and contact tracing proved the nurse giving the shots had covid-19 but was asymptomatic.

I really fail to understand the poor planning on this and why she was not one of the first inocculated for the disease. 200+ are now in preventive quarantine. No idea how many got/are infected or suffering. It's not the first fail nor will it be the last.

[Dr Obbins]

Originally Posted by kdauto

Terribly sorry for your loss. Unfortunately, the same thing happened just a few blocks from home. A senior citizen's facility was getting vaccine administered and contact tracing proved the nurse giving the shots had covid-19 but was asymptomatic.

I really fail to understand the poor planning on this and why she was not one of the first inocculated for the disease. 200+ are now in preventive quarantine. No idea how many got/are infected or suffering. It's not the first fail nor will it be the last.

My understanding is that the vaccine does not stop someone from getting covid, but prepares the body so it is only a mild case. The nurses could have been vaccinated and still been a carrier. Or it is a beginning of a conspiracy theory. (Que the Twilight Zone music)

[Danny969]

I had it. Very mild. Headache and tickle in my throat for two or three days. Lost my sense of smell for a few months, but I can't say I really missed it.

[kdauto]

Originally Posted by Dr Obbins

My understanding is that the vaccine does not stop someone from getting covid, but prepares the body so it is only a mild case. The nurses could have been vaccinated and still been a carrier. Or it is a beginning of a conspiracy theory. (Que the Twilight Zone music)

I won't pretend to be an expert on this disease, but I think your explanation is somewhat correct. I have heard some experts imply that vaccinated people would less easily spread the disease should they be in contact with someone who has it.

After research, it appears the nurse performed 150 +/- vaccinations on February 2nd. She HID the fact she was experiencing symptoms. It appears some residents started having symptoms OR the nurse eventually declared herself infected, that is when they started quarantining the residents to their rooms. It is unclear of an outbreak has occurred or not, but I haven't heard anything even searching today.

It would make utter sense if people performing vaccinations are themselves vaccinated. Also, rapid testing IS available and there are loads of tests in a warehouse somewhere apparently. Shouldn't that personnel be using a rapid test before each round of vaccinations? Where is our common sense?

[Dr Obbins]

Originally Posted by kdauto

I won't pretend to be an expert on this disease, but I think your explanation is somewhat correct. I have heard some experts imply that vaccinated people would less easily spread the disease should they be in contact with someone who has it.

After research, it appears the nurse performed 150 +/- vaccinations on February 2nd. She HID the fact she was experiencing symptoms. It appears some residents started having symptoms OR the nurse eventually declared herself infected, that is when they started quarantining the residents to their rooms. It is unclear of an outbreak has occurred or not, but I haven't heard anything even searching today.

It would make utter sense if people performing vaccinations are themselves vaccinated. Also, rapid testing IS available and there are loads of tests in a warehouse somewhere apparently. Shouldn't that personnel be using a rapid test before each round of vaccinations? Where is our common sense?

That would make sense. Where my mother was, about 50 people or 30% of the staff & patients got sick. I think 3 others died. Next question would be: Where they all wearing masks?

[kdauto]

AFAIK they were all wearing masks, the covid infected nurse as well.

Masks have been mandated here for many months now,we are getting pretty used to them. It may be what saves most of them.

[Solo_RV_Guy]

Originally Posted by kdauto

Also, rapid testing IS available and there are loads of tests in a warehouse somewhere apparently. Shouldn't that personnel be using a rapid test before each round of vaccinations? Where is our common sense?

Yes, and rapid, on site testing has been good and not good. On the good side, a catering cook working on a TV show location shoot tested positive at the "outer perimeter" and was sidelined, retested with a different test, and sent to quarantine. All his coworkers were re-tested and returned to work. The cook had worked on site for the previous 5 days and was without symptoms. No transmission to other workers, cast or crew of the TV show were infected. In this instance testing and strict protocols worked.

https://www.diamandis.com/blog/false-sense-security

The author expresses his regret that creating a 'bubble' with lots of testing and doctors in house would allow for a 'masks optional' event. It didn't end well (see linky) for those who chose no masks and up-close socialization; the AV Club, sitting away from guests and talent, and wearing masks, had zero infections.

I posit that all testing is not created equal, nor is the administration of sample collection and handling. Results can be false-negative for either/both reasons and is part of why the general public will benefit from PPE use for at least a few more months.

[kdauto]

I definitely understand rapid testing is far from foolproof. There is at least a 50% chance or greater that a nurse harboring the virus would get it detected, so that's better than them risking infecting dozens or hindreds of vaccine recipients.

As far as I know none of the elderly patients in the senior citizen's home got infected from her. I imagine that mandatory masking up IS working. It really is not difficult people, but I do admit it is uncomfortable and inconvenient at times.

My elderly parents are awaiting Thursday and we are trying to get an appointment for them to get the vaccine. It'll be like when the gates drop at a horse race I'm sure.

[Solo_RV_Guy]

Originally Posted by Dr Obbins

My understanding is that the vaccine does not stop someone from getting covid, but prepares the body so it is only a mild case.

That was my understanding as well. Today I read this and things look more hopeful:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...i-15969105.php

More time will reveal more.