COVID-19 Travel Advisory Washington State!

[Bob_C]

Some can't breath thru masks....face shields zdo not work.....

[Cumminsfan]

Yes some can't breath well with a cloth mask. Face shields still help. If you sneeze behind a face shield the particles won't go flying through the air. Some will escape but not the majority. Every little bit helps those around you.

It's not a law that you can't see your family. It's a recommended guideline. You won't go to jail. We all have to choose whats right for our situation. Just like in Oregon, only certain counties are now under a partial lock down.

I don't get all wigged out over what some politician says. Both sides are playing the Covid for their benefit. But it's easy to see which side is more concerned about our health.

No one's going to jail because there's 7 people at Thanksgiving dinner. But I sure wouldn't want to be the guy that has to explain why I was at a large family gathering where many of those there got sick and several went to the hospital.

[jeanluc001]

I see people driving in their cars alone. by themselves mind you. wearing a mask.Is there any possible scientific advantage to do this that would slow the spread of this virus??

[DKB218NYC]

We've progress a lot since these days but... as we still don't have a vaccine and covid-19 has mutated as least once, I, for the sake of maybe, will wear my mask when I venture out in public. I don't want to bring anything home to the family.

https://www.history.com/news/spanish...ave-resurgence

[twogypsies]

Originally Posted by jeanluc001

I see people driving in their cars alone. by themselves mind you. wearing a mask.Is there any possible scientific advantage to do this that would slow the spread of this virus??

They could be comfortable wearing it and are inbetween going to stores, etc. and just didn't remove it.

[Highway 4x4]

So Washington state or any other state clamps down, closes borders and business and the numbers go down. Great. Then they open back up and the numbers go back up. So they close back down. Up, down, up, down. How long do we do that dance? I can see how people get "just over it" and give up. It's been almost a year, is it any better? If we don't get a vaccine that works our way of life will die, if it hasn't already been wounded to death.

[UTTransplant]

We are still planning on heading to the desert after Christmas, but we do intend on making our stay shorter than usual. Many of the places we might have gone are closed anyway, so why not? We have already cancelled extended family Thanksgiving and we have semi-cancelled extended family Christmas. However we have started talking about why we just might stay home this winter. Travel restrictions in AZ or CA will be the reasons if we cancel. If we can just get through this until summer by which time many will have been vaccinated, we will be able to have some normality. The question is how many people will die or have serious long-term complications before then.

[Cumminsfan]

Originally Posted by Highway 4x4

So Washington state or any other state clamps down, closes borders and business and the numbers go down. Great. Then they open back up and the numbers go back up. So they close back down. Up, down, up, down. How long do we do that dance? I can see how people get "just over it" and give up. It's been almost a year, is it any better? If we don't get a vaccine that works our way of life will die, if it hasn't already been wounded to death.

All great points. Times are chaotic to say the least. A vaccine is very close to being made public, but even then it may take a year or two before the results bare fruit.

Not everyone will take it, even if proven safe. Combine Covid with the flu and winters are going to be a mess.

FWIW I got my flu shot 3 weeks ago and while talking with the pharmacist that issued the shot, he told me he wasn't going to personally get a Covid shot from the 1st batch. Hmmm. Thats not too comforting.

[RVPioneer]

Unfortunately, it isn’t necessary to travel to another state to transmit the virus. It can be accomplished at a neighbors dinner party, a family birthday party, a restaurant or a golf course, for example. So, everyone can stay close to home and spread at will.

It’s the same virus in one state as it is in another. It really doesn’t matter if someone shows up from another state or not.

I’ve been working in a project for more than 8 weeks in So Cal. Our workforce numbers more than 250. Everyone gets tested on Monday, about half that number also gets tested on Wednesday and Friday. We work about 50 hours a week, M-F. So far we’ve worked one Saturday and we’ll be working this Saturday as well. We wear masks and face shields and attempt to maintain a distance of 6’ from each other. The 6’ distancing is all but impossible. Some of us are often shoulder to shoulder or well within 6’ of each other for a majority the day.

We have had 5 positive test results. One is believed to have been a false positive as that person was being tested 3X a week and tested negative on the next 3 tests after the positive result, as well as having a negative result on a test for a separate employer during the same period. All persons believed to have been in close contact with those who had positive results were removed from the project for 2 weeks.

Initially, I questioned the idea of wearing a mask. Based on my recent work experience and work with our Health and Safety team, I no longer question the usefulness of wearing a mask when being within 6’ of anyone who does not live in my house. You can get it from, or give it to, your best friend, grandmother, brother, sister-in-law, nephew, aunt or anyone else whether you know them or not.

Personally, I believe that the state to state travel restrictions are ineffective. It isn’t where you go, it’s what you do when you get there.

[Cumminsfan]

I have to walk back my "Not going to jail" opinion. Looks like a fine and or jail time is possible, although highly unlikely, if you're at a large gathering in Oregon. Going to be an interesting Thanksgiving in Oregon.
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavir...us-freeze.html

[RVPioneer]

Originally Posted by jeanluc001

I see people driving in their cars alone. by themselves mind you. wearing a mask.Is there any possible scientific advantage to do this that would slow the spread of this virus??

It could be a vehicle that is shared with someone who lives outside their household, or a work vehicle, Lyft, Uber or a food delivery service. They may be following a required protocol.

Our work involves shared vehicles at times, sometimes to transport employees or other situations. We have a designated person to disinfect and sanitize each vehicle whenever there is a change in personnel.

[RVPioneer]

Originally Posted by Cumminsfan

I have to walk back my "Not going to jail" opinion. Looks like a fine and or jail time is possible, although highly unlikely, if you're at a large gathering in Oregon. Going to be an interesting Thanksgiving in Oregon.
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavir...us-freeze.html

There should be no doubt that a tremendous amount of cases are coming from small, medium and large social gatherings where people are not following anti-social distancing or mask wearing recommendations. It is unlikely that the authorities will be able to monitor and fine or imprison people who choose to participate in these types of events.

The threats of punishment may discourage some, but not all.

The elephant in the room is that many of these measures are half thought out at best. Imposing restrictions on gatherings and travel, while allowing bars to stay open until 10:00pm is nothing short of sheer madness.

Do they think that the virus can’t be spread at a bar before 10:00pm?

[Cumminsfan]

Originally Posted by RVPioneer

There should be no doubt that a tremendous amount of cases are coming from small, medium and large social gatherings where people are not following anti-social distancing or mask wearing recommendations. It is unlikely that the authorities will be able to monitor and fine or imprison people who choose to participate in these types of events.

The threats of punishment may discourage some, but not all.

The elephant in the room is that many of these measures are half thought out at best. Imposing restrictions on gatherings and travel, while allowing bars to stay open until 10:00pm is nothing short of sheer madness.

Do they think that the virus can’t be spread at a bar before 10:00pm?

Bars will be closed and take out only effective next Wednesday.

[followingsea]

Originally Posted by DKB218NYC

We've progress a lot since these days but... as we still don't have a vaccine and covid-19 has mutated as least once, I, for the sake of maybe, will wear my mask when I venture out in public. I don't want to bring anything home to the family.

https://www.history.com/news/spanish...ave-resurgence

Covid-19 is not new or the Spanish Flu. To date only one active duty military has died and he was a 41 yo master chief.

The absurd proposition that covid-19 was the Spanish Flu was presented to justify the panic demic.

Not smallpox or polio. Old people near death are dying.

So we have gone from talking about a disease potentially killing children to talking about a slight increase in the number of cases.

We could talk about the remarkable low death rate but that would not promote a panic demic.

In Nevada and Arizona death are way down. Why is that not being reported?

So your own research for your location.