Labor Day was a fun time evidently

[Highway 4x4]

People die all the time from many things. My only son died 2 months ago from brain cancer. My only daughter died 3 years ago. She lived alone and was diebetic, caught the flu, took her insulin and could not keep any food down and blood sugar level crashed. My father died of ALS. My sister has had cancer now for 30+ years and now has bone cancer that will probably take her soon. Add many other friends that have died in recent years. But, I do not have one friend that has dies of Covid 19. IMO,,, IMO,,, the numbers just do not warrant the level of shut down we now have on this. I fear the reasons of control of this virus cannot be discussed here. If the news, the politicians, all lie about this virus we have lost it and our future generations have no hope. This constant open and close of everything under the reason of public safety is just not right.

[twogypsies]

It's unfortunate that some people can't understand how serious this virus is and why we're asked to do the things we are. Hopefully, we won't have as big of a second wave but if people start relaxing on the simple things we can do for ourselves and others then it's going to explode again. We can't go back to 'normal' yet.

[Highway 4x4]

Please everyone do what you are told and stay home especially on the holiday weekends. I am really getting tired of the crowds everywhere. For your own safety just stay home. I am making my reservations for my winter and summer trips and I want the campgrounds empty. LOL

[okmunky]

I am really pleased to show you the COVID -19 statistics for Yuma County, AZ.

https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/e...ards/index.php

The number of new cases keeps going down and Labor Day did not produce any rise in cases. For a county of 219,000 people to only have 8 new cases (the number reported this morning) says we all are doing it pretty well. You rarely see anyone out in public without a mask. Our restaurants and gyms are open and life is starting to settle down to the new normal.

My sympathy to the folks in your area, Harvey.

It seems as if I can’t get the data page I wanted to show you by posting a link. If you'd like to see what I’m bragging about go to the above link, scroll down and click on "Confirmed Covid 19 cases by day". Once that page loads click on Yuma County which is in the southwest corner of the state. You'll see that in early July we were having 300+ new cases per day, but not anymore.

[Desertboyz]

Originally Posted by MO Fred

Including DW and myself. We are both 68 and survived the virus in early July. Back to normal now.

Back to normal? What do you know that the rest of the world doesn't? You must live in a plastic bubble with zero risk. But please don't be in denial about the virus. It'd be extremely lazy/lame for anyone to consider, imagine, pretend, ignore, or dismiss the virus isn't real. There are more people in the world that us/you.

[MO Fred]

Originally Posted by Desertboyz

Back to normal? What do you know that the rest of the world doesn't? You must live in a plastic bubble with zero risk. But please don't be in denial about the virus. It'd be extremely lazy/lame for anyone to consider, imagine, pretend, ignore, or dismiss the virus isn't real. There are more people in the world that us/you.

I certainly did not mean to downplay the virus... and I certainly understand that some people have a tougher time with it. I know the virus is real because we had it. But it seems that many believe that getting the virus is the kiss of death including DW and myself when we first got it.

Yes DW and I are back to our normal physical lives and we continue to wear masks and practice social distancing. I have been an avid jogger for the past 35 years and have returned back to my normal routine feeling no ill effects. DW is feeling well too. So, yes one can get back to feeling (physically) normal after having this virus.

So if I sounded a bit pompous then I apologize. I suggest however that first and foremost,.... please do your best to not contract the virus yourself. But if it does come upon you stay positive, pray to God, and know that well over 95% survive it

[Ray,IN]

SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 is now the third highest cause of death in the U.S.A.
This website and interactive map has this to say about the numbers.

"However, even these numbers may not paint a completely accurate picture, due to discrepancies in how widely different states are testing for the virus and how they're reporting cases."


Regardless, I have every high risk factor of death from COVID-19 and will keep adhering to current CDC guidance for my risk group.

[aether_one]

Originally Posted by Ray,IN

SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 is now the third highest cause of death in the U.S.A.
This website and interactive map has this to say about the numbers.

"However, even these numbers may not paint a completely accurate picture, due to discrepancies in how widely different states are testing for the virus and how they're reporting cases."


Regardless, I have every high risk factor of death from COVID-19 and will keep adhering to current CDC guidance for my risk group.

For the period from 1 Feb of this year to date. You make it sound like Covid-19's death rate has increased to be the third highest cause of death currently when in fact the number/percentage of deaths due to Covid-19 have greatly decreased since the peak earlier this year.

[Ray,IN]

Originally Posted by tfryman

For the period from 1 Feb of this year to date. You make it sound like Covid-19's death rate has increased to be the third highest cause of death currently when in fact the number/percentage of deaths due to Covid-19 have greatly decreased since the peak earlier this year.

I did not fabricate those statistics they are on the websites, thus the hot links to the information.

[Highway 4x4]

If you have a high risk of dying of Covid you need to be careful because you probably have a high risk of dying,, period. There are many other things that will help you to your eternal home besides covid. At least with covid you might have some time to get affairs in order.

[akeagle]

Originally Posted by HDGoose

And? Look at the real numbers. Look at all the real numbers.

If you have underlying conditions worry. So few have actually died from the virus itself. We will never know the real truth about this issue.

Even if there were preexisting conditions, if COVID-19 was the tipping point that caused a death, then it was indeed the cause of death if the person would have otherwise survived had they not contracted COVID.

Perhaps that sounds complicated, but its not. I suggest that many deaths by disease often are multifaceted, but just one of them can make it un-survivable.

[CARLnJANIS]

The only thing that kept the Covid-19 virus from being a major pandemic and killing millions was modern communications, modern medicine, and modern medical technology.

An interesting read below from the CDC, where most of the information in this post originated, is about the 1918 Pandemic, caused by the H1N1 virus. 500 million people worldwide, 1/3 of the world population, was infected and 50 million died worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States. That virus, a mutated strain of the 1918 H1N1 virus, is still around today and is included in the annual flu shot with the strain determined by the CDC. The 2009 Pandemic, yes, there was a pandemic in 2009, was caused by a new strain of the H1N1 virus that caused the deadly 1918 Pandemic. You can read about the 2009 Pandemic at the same link below.

Like I said above, the only difference about the Covid-19 and the 2009 Pandemic verses the 1918 Pandemic was modern communications, modern medicine, and medical technology. In 1918, these were not available or at a minimum very primitive to what we have today. When the seriousness of the Covic-19 virus was finally realized, news and warnings were spread rapidly across the globe allowing the world leaders to react quickly. In 3 to 4 months a large portion of the world was on lockdown. The origin and timeline for the 1918 Pandemic is unknown, but is believed to have been brought to the US by returning troops. The first US cases were identified in April 1918. How long the virus was spreading across the world is unknown. In 1918, the only treatment, as the below article states, was "control efforts worldwide were limited to non-pharmaceutical interventions such as isolation, quarantine, good personal hygiene, use of disinfectants, and limitations of public gatherings, which were applied unevenly."

IMHO, I believe social distancing, masks, and sheltering-in-place significantly reduced the infection rate.

And one note, like the N1H1 virus, the Covid-19 virus will always be around.

And remember, by social distancing, masks, and sheltering-in-place, the life you save may not be your own, but your neighbors, friends, and loved ones.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...emic-h1n1.html

[Xmcdog]

Originally Posted by CARLnJANIS

The only thing that kept the Covid-19 virus from being a major pandemic and killing millions was modern communications, modern medicine, and modern medical technology.

An interesting read below from the CDC, where most of the information in this post originated, is about the 1918 Pandemic, caused by the H1N1 virus. 500 million people worldwide, 1/3 of the world population, was infected and 50 million died worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States. That virus, a mutated strain of the 1918 H1N1 virus, is still around today and is included in the annual flu shot with the strain determined by the CDC. The 2009 Pandemic, yes, there was a pandemic in 2009, was caused by a new strain of the H1N1 virus that caused the deadly 1918 Pandemic. You can read about the 2009 Pandemic at the same link below.

Like I said above, the only difference about the Covid-19 and the 2009 Pandemic verses the 1918 Pandemic was modern communications, modern medicine, and medical technology. In 1918, these were not available or at a minimum very primitive to what we have today. When the seriousness of the Covic-19 virus was finally realized, news and warnings were spread rapidly across the globe allowing the world leaders to react quickly. In 3 to 4 months a large portion of the world was on lockdown. The origin and timeline for the 1918 Pandemic is unknown, but is believed to have been brought to the US by returning troops. The first US cases were identified in April 1918. How long the virus was spreading across the world is unknown. In 1918, the only treatment, as the below article states, was "control efforts worldwide were limited to non-pharmaceutical interventions such as isolation, quarantine, good personal hygiene, use of disinfectants, and limitations of public gatherings, which were applied unevenly."

IMHO, I believe social distancing, masks, and sheltering-in-place significantly reduced the infection rate.

And one note, like the N1H1 virus, the Covid-19 virus will always be around.

And remember, by social distancing, masks, and sheltering-in-place, the life you save may not be your own, but your neighbors, friends, and loved ones.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...emic-h1n1.html

Have to agree.

It is interesting to note that the basics are still the best defence. Wash your hands, stay home and the 6 ft rule. Oh yes, don't touch your face.

[paul65k]

Originally Posted by MO Fred

Looks like the fear factor is still alive and well! Where are the Labor Day weekend auto fatality statistics?

Just wondering................If someone is killed in an auto accident and during autopsy is found to have the CORONA Virus, is this death considered in the numbers reported..... Hmmmmm??

Not trying to be provocative, just wondering