Outdoor events

[twogypsies]

Originally Posted by Davidrvr

Wear a mask that doesn’t work? Social distance that doesn’t work?

We were getting a good handle on Covid with mask wearing & distancing. Then things were lifted and now look at where we are.

Again stop and think.. if any of that worked then why are we here today? Because of the unvaccinated ? YES


Israel is mostly vaccinated and are having a leaking problem (or shedding).. not coming from unvax..

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-644288348135


Some U.S. states have a higher vaccination rate than Isreal:

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...-march-15.html


anyone know how they test for DELTA variant? They have not and can’t unless they break it down to a dna level..

They HAVE done sequencing but not on every test and there's a reason for that. Read the 1st paragraph.

https://www.dshs.state.tx.us/coronav...iant-faqs.aspx

Large crowds are ok..

NO THEY'RE NOT, especially when packed in.

Obviously, you don't believe in science and scientists who have schooled, worked years with viruses and scientists that come together from all over the world believing in the same facts being discovered. Science is ongoing. That's why there have been changes. As new things are learned there will be changes. That's what science is all about.

Both of us worked at The Upjohn Company (pharmaceutical) which is now Pfizer. We worked with drug studies and getting new drugs approved and to the market. We understand a lot about science!

[mickeybitsko]

NOBODY is gonna win this OPINION driven subject, and that is exactly what it is OPINION.
For every doctor, virologist, expert, and government talking head pushing scary words
24/7 on msm there are just as many doctors ,virologists and experts in the private sector (that have no skin in the game)
That can debunk the government appointed experts and are NOT in it for the money.
Why should they NOT be believed? And not ONE of you believers will not trust their opinions and their expertise. And why should the believers them, because the government appointed money
Grubbers says not to, nobody is as smart as government experts.
Stay Scared Americans keep drinking the government kool-aid.
Does anyone really believe the government cares about your health.. No! Follow the money.
May as throw this thread in the heap of dead covid threads.

[Davidrvr]

Try looking at the science before they all went south..

Masks have never worked and if you believe a virus particle stops at your mask or at 6’ or from the front of a restaurant to the table..

Really they say the social distancing should be 60’ plus..

Think why the grocery stores or Home Depot never shut down with a break through of patience ? With thousands of visitors daily? Everyone touching everything including the register?

Did you know there are 4 main kinds of Covid ? Tomato have a immunity or a partial immunity.. those that have had the virus have a natural immunity already that’s why some didn’t get sick at all..

Think about mask that are required for mining? Or painting oil base? Or fire fighters? Or or or.. but a cheese cloth works? Cmon man!!

[Itinerant1]

Rational thought stopped along time ago. Now it's just drink the kool-aid and shutup.

So many outside events going on now there should be mass covid attacks everywhere or at least where they want you to look at today.

[Kid Gloves]

Originally Posted by Davidrvr

I’m still wondering what happened to natural immunity ? Had Covid and been around other that had it... not sure what the problem is after one has had it... everyone has forgotten about the natural part that has been around for ... well as long as man has.. there is also treatments that actually work that will keep it at bay and can be treated after one has contracted it..

Anyone seen a lupus patient with Covid? Think on that one.. why not? They are on meds that prevent them from getting it and another one that cuts the hospital down by up to 70 percent... maybe they big party goers they are not wearing the masks and make rules against everyone already have taken them or have a natural immunity? Hmmm makes one wonder

I see this thread is still alive. There was a recent British study of 12,700 people who’ve had Covid, which showed that they had a substantial decline in reasoning, problem-solving and other cognitive abilities.

Makes one wonder.

[twogypsies]

Originally Posted by Kid Gloves

I see this thread is still alive. There was a recent British study of 12,700 people who’ve had Covid, which showed that they had a substantial decline in reasoning, problem-solving and other cognitive abilities.

Makes one wonder.

A good reason to get the vaccine!

https://www.newsweek.com/uk-study-sh...olving-1613762

[mickeybitsko]

Maybe that's why I'm seeing more big pharma ads pushing cognitive decline "medicine "
Makes me wonder.

[RKins]

Are you disbelievers, disbelievers just in the virus? or just the masks?
It's hard to disbelieve in the daily number of people testing positive or is there a conspiracy theory about that. What about the 50 and younger now landing in the ER and on vents - another conspiracy theory? What about the young kids on ventilators due to Covid? What about the full classrooms of students being sent home for quarantine here in FL after a parent sent their sick kid, coughing and sneezing, into school on the first day - later that day testing positive for Covid. Of course no one was wearing masks.
What say you disbelievers? Clear us up on what you really disbelieve.

[Kid Gloves]

Originally Posted by twogypsies

A good reason to get the vaccine!

https://www.newsweek.com/uk-study-sh...olving-1613762

Even the fully “vaccinated” are becoming infected, and contagious. Last month, in the county where I live, 20% of the cases occurred in fully “vaccinated” people. The fully “vaccinated” also accounted for 20% of the deaths. Those aren’t encouraging numbers for individuals who believe that science has made them invincible.

It is the unmasked, regardless of vaccination status, who are perpetuating this pandemic. Misinformation, ignorance and stupidity aside, a surgical mask or KN95 mask will do the trick. Anything less is a risk. All anyone can do is protect themselves, but a shot alone, is proving to provide less protection than advertised.

Egos and ignorance will kill a lot of folks.

[twogypsies]

Originally Posted by Kid Gloves

Even the fully “vaccinated” are becoming infected, and contagious. Last month, in the county where I live, 20% of the cases occurred in fully “vaccinated” people. The fully “vaccinated” also accounted for 20% of the deaths. Those aren’t encouraging numbers for individuals who believe that science has made them invincible.

It is the unmasked, regardless of vaccination status, who are perpetuating this pandemic. Misinformation, ignorance and stupidity aside, a surgical mask or KN95 mask will do the trick. Anything less is a risk. All anyone can do is protect themselves, but a shot alone, is proving to provide less protection than advertised.

Egos and ignorance will kill a lot of folks.

Would you start giving links as to where you're getting information?

https://apnews.com/article/coronavir...6e7354f5d5e187

https://abc11.com/coronavirus-nc-cov...iant/10919954/

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07...inated-deaths/

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...cinated-people

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...ed-2021-08-05/

ETC, ETC, ETC ... and it only took a couple minutes. How about you and others posting your sources?

[Kid Gloves]

Originally Posted by twogypsies

Would you start giving links as to where you're getting information?

https://apnews.com/article/coronavir...6e7354f5d5e187

Why? No one is going to believe anything that they don’t already believe.

The link you posted is more than 6 weeks old and contains exactly zero data.

[mickeybitsko]

Originally Posted by RKins

Are you disbelievers, disbelievers just in the virus? or just the masks?
It's hard to disbelieve in the daily number of people testing positive or is there a conspiracy theory about that. What about the 50 and younger now landing in the ER and on vents - another conspiracy theory? What about the young kids on ventilators due to Covid? What about the full classrooms of students being sent home for quarantine here in FL after a parent sent their sick kid, coughing and sneezing, into school on the first day - later that day testing positive for Covid. Of course no one was wearing masks.
What say you disbelievers? Clear us up on what you really disbelieve.

How about arresting the dumb ass parents for sending a sick kid to school , to paraphrase a bobblehead news reporter "that parent sent a murderer to school . Riddle me that batman.

[Kid Gloves]

Originally Posted by twogypsies

Would you start giving links as to where you're getting information?

https://apnews.com/article/coronavir...6e7354f5d5e187

https://abc11.com/coronavirus-nc-cov...iant/10919954/

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07...inated-deaths/

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...cinated-people

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...ed-2021-08-05/

ETC, ETC, ETC ... and it only took a couple minutes. How about you and others posting your sources?

Take a few more minutes and look at the information provided by the Oregon Health Authority.

In July, 81% of cases were in unvaccinated people (OHA considers partially vaccinated people as unvaccinated). Put another way, 19% of the cases were in fully vaccinated people. Those cases are referred to as breakthrough cases. Also in July, 82% of Covid related deaths occurred in unvaccinated people, or, 18% of the deaths occurred in fully vaccinated people.

The breakthrough cases are up from 9% in June and 2% in May. It would not be inaccurate to say that breakthrough cases have increased nearly 10-fold since May. There is some scientific evidence that breakthrough cases are becoming less rare.

News sources and even the OHA continue to regurgitate that breakthrough cases are rare. Rare is a vague term. What metrics the OHA or other talking heads use to define rare is a mystery. If 18-19% constitutes rare, so be it.

[Solo_RV_Guy]

Originally Posted by Kid Gloves

Are you wearing an N95 respirator or a KN95 mask? Two different types of PPE as I’m sure you’re aware.

How are these events healthy for the consumer if the workforce needs to wear PPE to remain safe.

I’ve worked with Tom Cruise. He’s a bit unhinged. His behavior, in the episode that you mentioned, is nothing short of inappropriate in the workplace. Had anyone below the line exhibited such behavior, they would have been shown the door.

Unprofessional conduct? Yes. He's also a producer and owns a chunk of the movie. He's the boss, he cant be fired.


There are lots of jobs that require PPE of various kinds. Entertainment has some of the more unique needs.