Drive of Verona 36VSB versus 34VQB

[rickandsonja]

My wife and I are very interested in getting a 34VQB. That said, the 36VSB has some advantages and the prices seem very comparable. So we haven't completely eliminated the 36 as a possibility.

Has anyone driven both that can provide a drive-ability comparison?

[MagnaTudes]

Originally Posted by rickandsonja

My wife and I are very interested in getting a 34VQB. That said, the 36VSB has some advantages and the prices seem very comparable. So we haven't completely eliminated the 36 as a possibility.

Has anyone driven both that can provide a drive-ability comparison?

Turning Radius

36 vs. 34 turning radius

[RaceRenegade]

We have a 40VRB, and have yet to think we’d want something smaller, even with the trailer behind us (total length 66’), I’ll take her most anywhere and have. Go big, you’ll enjoy the extra space.

[Uncle_Mike]

Check with your dealer because rumor has it that the 34VQB floorplan is being discontinued soon.

[DirtRider]

Originally Posted by MagnaTudes

Turning Radius

Wow! I never would've guessed it would've been that dramatic. Thanks for posting!


--maybe a one day Verona owner, if I can just convince my wife that everything else is terrible and we need to make the leap from the Minnie Winnie

[Paul R.]

[QUOTE=DirtRider;5746171--maybe a one day Verona owner, if I can just convince my wife that everything else is terrible and we need to make the leap from the Minnie Winnie [/QUOTE]

I made that leap. Winnebago Spirit 25B to a Verona 36VSB. I was strongly in favor of the 34VQB until I saw how tight the aisle was to the bathroom with the slide in. I bought the 36VSB and really like it, including the washer and dryer which I initially thought were frivolous.

[drw907]

My preference would be they would make a 34 floor plan with combo washer drier (and overhead front bunk).

Also wish there was a 2 slide short LE with overhead front bunk, with washer/drier combo. Say 35' to 36' max.

[DirtRider]

Originally Posted by Paul R.

I made that leap. Winnebago Spirit 25B to a Verona 36VSB. I was strongly in favor of the 34VQB until I saw how tight the aisle was to the bathroom with the slide in. I bought the 36VSB and really like it, including the washer and dryer which I initially thought were frivolous.

FREAKING AWESOME! I bet that's not a common transition. Have you found the Verona a bit of an adjustment for boondocking?

[Paul R.]

Originally Posted by DirtRider

FREAKING AWESOME! I bet that's not a common transition. Have you found the Verona a bit of an adjustment for boondocking?

The big adjustment was wrapping my head around the fact that it’s so much better at boondocking. 150 gallons fresh water, 75 gallons each for black and grey water, a quiet 8kw diesel generator with AGS, solar, locking differential, etc. I feel like I’m cheating.

[MagnaTudes]

Originally Posted by Paul R.

The big adjustment was wrapping my head around the fact that it’s so much better at boondocking. 150 gallons fresh water, 75 gallons each for black and grey water, a quiet 8kw diesel generator with AGS, solar, locking differential, etc. I feel like I’m cheating.

Congrats! Nothing like a Renegade! The tank sizes sold me.

[DirtRider]

Originally Posted by Paul R.

The big adjustment was wrapping my head around the fact that it’s so much better at boondocking. 150 gallons fresh water, 75 gallons each for black and grey water, a quiet 8kw diesel generator with AGS, solar, locking differential, etc. I feel like I’m cheating.

The tank volumes are one of the biggest things that make me drool over these things. And yep, a locking diff seems amazing. The things I would have been worried about boondocking are the physical size, the maneuverability, and the power draws.

Do you find the 12-1/2’ tall profile a problem on forest roads? How much harder is it to maneuver than the little 25b? Obviously, the steering wheel cut is way better than the nonsense on the E450. But the unit is another 10’ longer, so not sure how much of an issue it is.

Finally, is the all-electric thing an issue? I just always think a propane stove would be better without power. And the propane fridge. Does your solar and battery manage well enough, or do you just run the gen some every day?

[MagnaTudes]

All good points. I guess when I said "nothing like a Renegade", I was more in the frame of mind about my own coach which is very different than most Super Cs.

My Renegade Explorer is 32ft bumper to bumper. It has three slides for a comfortable interior space. Cold weather insulated. Fridge/freezer is a modern absorption type 110VAC/propane w/inverted 12VDC. Portable 12VDC/110VAC Danfoss fridge/freezer in storage bay. Hot water heater is 110VAC & propane. The heater is propane or electric 100VAC. The propane tank is 38.6 gal. 230" wheelbase w/ 55 degree steering. 620 aHours of battery (310aH @50% DOD). 8kw quiet diesel gen.

Boondocking is relevant. Are we desert, forest, rest stop, truck stop, National/State County campground?

I may venture up some logging roads in forests, but before doing so I would make sure I could squeeze into there before moving the coach into it. That includes width, height clearance, road quality, turning radius, & tail swing. Wheelbase is important in such ventures. Most of those forest roads were built for moving logs & heavy equipment with long semi-tractor trailer trucks.

[Rumline]

Originally Posted by DirtRider

Do you find the 12-1/2’ tall profile a problem on forest roads? How much harder is it to maneuver than the little 25b?

I never had a class B / small C, but I have had a travel trailer and done plenty of camping off forest roads with both rigs. Yes the height can be a limiting factor. Most of the popular roads have plenty of vertical clearance and lateral maneuvering room (in my experience) but the smaller side roads / camping spurs can get dicey quick. Need to scout ahead and whenever there's ANY doubt...Get Out And Look! (GOAL)

The biggest maneuverability difference is how much more space you need to turn around with a big rig. Sometimes you just won't be able to and will need to back up. Departure angle is similar to what you have now, so be mindful of the dips, but I've taken my Renegade up some decently unmaintained roads.

Originally Posted by DirtRider

Finally, is the all-electric thing an issue? I just always think a propane stove would be better without power. And the propane fridge. Does your solar and battery manage well enough, or do you just run the gen some every day?

My rig has a propane stove but electric residential fridge. At first I was convinced that we had to have an absorption fridge for boondocking, and I was not happy about the fact that we couldn't find a Super C available for sale that had one. Didn't want to special order so I sucked it up and went for it. And now I'm so glad we did. Yes the residential fridge draws about 90-100 Ah per day depending on ambient temp. But the residential fridge is so much better than the absorption fridges we've used before: plenty of room, ice cream stays frozen, ICE MAKER, vegetables don't get slimy, etc.

But this thing has a quiet and powerful generator with auto start! We went from having solar and no generator to no solar and generator. It took a minute to get used to but it's nice to be able to run anything and everything in the rig, at the same time if you want. Both A/C's, water heater on electric, (when the gen's running, why not save on propane?) microwave, hair dryer, etc. We generally run the generator 3 hours per day split between morning and evening. If you get a rig with solar that will help out too. The rule of thumb is ~30Ah per day per 100W of solar panels assuming good sun.

[MagnaTudes]

I forgot to mention cooking. I have an induction cooktop and a microwave/convection oven, both 120VAC. Microwave/convection is on an inverter circuit. Propane is also good to have for the BBQ via a quick connect.