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04-09-2018, 08:41 AM
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Heating controls on new Valencia
This may be a long post, but I’m hoping Valencia owners can give me some advice.
I’m on my first trip with my Valencia and have noticed the thermostat controls are very confusing. I can not adequately heat the main room without making the bedroom way too hot, and the Zone controls don’t seem to actually control any zones. When either zone is on, independently, all the heater vents in the whole RV are still blowing. You would think Zone one would control only vents in that zone, and the same for Zone two, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
It seems there are only two heater ducts in the main cabin near the door that blow weakly, but the ducts under the bed blow like a jet engine; unfortunately the ducts are not able to be closed under the bed. This would seem like a major problem for heating in cool weather, as the bedroom is 78 degrees, while the above cab sleeping area is 15+ degrees cooler. We are camping on shore power, and the lows at night are only in the mid 40’s; can’t imagine what below freezing would be like.
I’m wondering if i’m doing something wrong, or maybe something isn’t right with my system. I’m going to try and block one of the bedroom heater vents, but not sure what else to do. The RV otherwise has been great.
Please, any advice would be very helpful.
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04-09-2018, 08:49 AM
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Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Blocking vents is not a solution as the furnace needs a certain amout of open vent area to function safely and not overheat.
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04-09-2018, 09:40 AM
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Freightliner Owners Club
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Zone 1 controls the gas furnace and you'll get heat from all vents, front and rear. When using zone 1 for air conditioning or heat pump you will heat/cool only zone 1. Zone 2 only controls the air conditioning/heat pump unit for zone 2.
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04-09-2018, 12:31 PM
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Thanks, that helps. Why don’t we get an owner’s manual with the Valencia?
A collection of all the inserts for each system is nice, but we need a manual about how the RV works as a whole. Did you receive an actual owner’s manual?, I’ve Had to pretty much figure most things out on my own. My last Thor had a manual that explained most things from a RV owner’s perspective, like, how to winterize, etc.
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04-09-2018, 01:57 PM
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no one manual for the entire RV.
Just a collection like you have found.
This website is a huge resource though...
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04-09-2018, 04:04 PM
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Freightliner Owners Club
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Never got a manual just for the motorhome. We bought from IWS and they spent all day with us going through everything in the motorhome to make sure we understood how everything worked. They were extremely thorough and detailed. Most of it was geared for someone that had little or no experience with a motorhome, they even took us to lunch.
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04-09-2018, 06:20 PM
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Location: Yakima WA
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We also bought from IWS.. They are great to deal with and told me they would spend whatever time it took until we were confident we understood everything about the coach...
I asked 3 or 4 questions and then let them know that after 10 previous coaches I had a pretty good handle on how these coaches all work. anything thats a bit different can be figured out and they would be ruining the fun of actually figuring it out by explaining it in advanced. I promised to call and ask if I actually got stumped by something........... Its part of the adventure and therefore part of the fun guys. Enjoy the learning. The research and this site.
Frank (I can screw things up as well as anybody) Tamez
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04-09-2018, 09:08 PM
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Zone 1 is the main cabin area.
Zone 2 is the master bedroom.
You can set each zone individually when using the heat pumps (electric heat). However, when using gas heat (furnace) only zone 1 is applicable. As you've noticed, there can be quite the differential in temperature between zone 1 and 2 during furnace operation. I surmise this is due to the location of the ambient temperature sensor.
What most people do is to set the thermostat at a comfortable temperature for zone 2 (bedroom) then set up a portable ceramic heater to help the main cabin area. We initially tried the Dyson heater/purifier but then experienced 2 instances where our Inverter tripped and needed to be reset. We've since returned it and am in search of another heater. Anyone have a good suggestion?
Interestingly, we've noticed our overhead cab sleeping area to be warmer, not cooler than the rest of the motorhome. Makes sense since hot air rises but opposite to what you're experiencing?
We also didn't receive an owner's manual for the motorhome itself. Very frustrating and not what we experienced with our prior Leisure Van. As a result its been difficult to find answers to some arcane questions regarding the unit itself. For example, does the bathroom sink drain to black tank or grey?
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04-09-2018, 10:34 PM
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BerryS, in all the trailers and MHs that I've owned the only thing that drains into the black tank is the Loo. The sinks always drained to the grey tank.
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04-10-2018, 08:18 AM
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Location: Yakima WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WaltW
BerryS, in all the trailers and MHs that I've owned the only thing that drains into the black tank is the Loo. The sinks always drained to the grey tank.
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Leisure Travel Vans are different. One of the 10 prior Coaches we owned was a Unity. Both sinks drain into the black tank. Only the shower drains into the gray.
I am investigating this on my Renegade. Just got back from a 5 day trip yesterday and we purposely didn't dump either the gray or the black tanks until we got home yesterday afternoon.. Both tanks seemed to be rather full and showed 2/3 before our morning showers yesterday morning. I took quick RV showers but my wife took normal ones the entire trip (we shower every morning). I expected 3 days would fill the gray as she also uses and washes dishes. I am going to investigate Saturday and see if the sinks are actually going to the black tank as I suspect at this point they very well may.
Frank
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04-10-2018, 09:15 AM
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Hi all,
I appreciate the comments, as I was able to get the heat thing figured out. I too enjoy figuring things out on my own, but the heating issue was a bit frustrating because the settings are not intuitive, (to me, at least).
Thanks again.
Oh, by the way, is it only my experience, or are Super C’s rather uncommon?
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04-11-2018, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jkwmd
Hi all,
Oh, by the way, is it only my experience, or are Super C’s rather uncommon?
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it would seem so... we had a gasser super C before this one and it really sold us on the capacities and driveabity of the platform. Full disclosure , I've never driven a class A. A plus is my wife will easily drive our current rig and the previous one. And I get the sense that alot of folks feel like it's noisy going down the road due to the engine in front. This hasn't been the case for us.
Really enjoy the rig, hope you have many years in it as well...
Bruce
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