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Old 09-18-2021, 06:59 AM   #1
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New Valencia 38RW performance

We are ordering a new Valencia 38RW coming out of a Dynamax Isata 3. Very impressed with the Renegade fit and finish versus the Dynamax and was wondering what everyone’s experience has been related to:

Fuel Economy - Towing a Jeep JK
Performance pulling hills and passes
Ride on Rough roads
Overall satisfaction with the coach and after sale support.

Dynamax has been great for us and we did look at the Force and DX line but really like the overall fit and finish of the Renegades. Checked all of our boxes.

Thanks In Advance!
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Old 09-18-2021, 09:08 AM   #2
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We have a 38RW. Love this floorplan. Here's my responses:
Fuel economy: average 7.8 towing. We tow a Lincoln MKX which is definitely heavier than a JK, I tend to drive middle-of-the pack in terms of speeds for RV drivers, and we're in Colorado so we do a lot of mountain pass traversal. This figure also includes moderate generator use but the gen is relatively efficient. I wouldn't imagine you could expect much better than 8.5 unless you only drive 55mph on flat land.

Performance in passes: Satisfied. It holds its own. Do I wish I had double the horsepower and torque? Sure. Not willing to pay for that though. We pull Eisenhower Pass (eastbound, which is the steep side) several times a year with full water tanks and towing and can maintain 40mph which is better than most trucks. Many 5ers blow past us though.

Ride on rough roads: Well, we live in Colorado so we have lots of experience with rough poorly-maintained roads lol. Also plenty of experience driving 2-lane back roads that were never built to interstate standards. How does it feel? Honestly, rough. This is a truck chassis with leaf spring suspension. The rear airbags are adequate. On the other hand, if we leave a cup of water on the counter, it tends to stay there for our whole drive. So the ride can't be THAT bad.

Overall satisfaction: We love it. It's very capable, meets all of our needs, provides a super comfortable oasis in the deep woods or a Walmart parking lot. It carries all the stuff we want including enough water for a family of 4 to boondock for 5 days and still wash dishes and take navy showers every day. I use the high counter in the bedroom as a standing desk to work from the road, trying to minimize my consumption of paid time off. The split bathroom design is genius (I know Renegade didn't invent it but still) for a family to use. We haven't needed to use any after-sale support.
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Old 09-18-2021, 09:22 AM   #3
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Really appreciate the feedback. Sounds like we made a great descision!
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Old 09-18-2021, 01:28 PM   #4
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I agree with every thing Rumline said except I pull a 2017 Wrangler 2 door and average 8.4 MPG on flat land and mountains. A little slow on steep roads, but so what, I am in no hurry, I to pass most loaded 18 wheelers. I drive 63/65 MPH mostly, tires are speed rated 75 MPH. ( Bridgestone tires)

I forgot to say I have a 2020 38RW.
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Sounds great. That’s my style as well. No hurry! Appreciate the input
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Old 09-19-2021, 08:32 AM   #6
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I can agree with the others as far as performance with the Valencia. I tow a 2dr JK with mine through the Smokies west of Asheville to visit the family. I’m not winning any races and keep the cruise at 63 and manage between 8-9mpg consistently up and down the east coast. Engine braking is sufficient with the VGT but on the steeper grades you always want a little more. With proper braking management it’s more than sufficient.

As far as support from Renegade, Woody is the man! My local dealer sold out to Camping World shortly after our purchase which let’s say they are less than pleasant to deal with. Most everything that has gone wrong I have repaired myself with the help of the folks on this site or calling Woody, but even at that there have only been a few minor items over the past year.
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I used to own a Dynamax Force HD and now a Renegade Verona so I can give you at least my experience. If you look beyond the obvious and dig a little deeper, there is no comparison between the two.

Look at the plumbing and more importantly how the wiring is finished. Renegade wins hands down.

Within the first month of my Force ownership I had major caulk seems shifting and caulk separation. That bothered me. My Renegade has never needed caulk since I bought it.

Dmax drilled holes through firewall to run wires with no grommets or sealer. Just a wire through a hole against sharp metal.. Thats lazy

Dmax GM spends his day on the forums while Renegades GM is busy working making the product better. Just my $.02...

You made a good choice. Congrats to you.
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Yes sir, Woody is the man for expert help at Renegade, great guy!
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I used to own a Dynamax Force HD and now a Renegade Verona so I can give you at least my experience. If you look beyond the obvious and dig a little deeper, there is no comparison between the two.

Look at the plumbing and more importantly how the wiring is finished. Renegade wins hands down.

Dmax drilled holes through firewall to run wires with no grommets or sealer. Just a wire through a hole against sharp metal.. Thats lazy

Dmax GM spends his day on the forums while Renegades GM is busy working making the product better. Just my $.02...

You made a good choice. Congrats to you.
That's not lazy? It's more like sloppy by inexperienced workers and no QC! Wiring was atrocious on my Isata.

The Dynamax GM is a young man that got promoted from another division within Forest River that built low-cost cookie cutter, non-Freightliner M2 RVs and is applying the same manufacturing practices that he was familiar with. He claims that Renegade and others are copycats when in essence he is copying the ideas of other manufacturers.
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Maybe he should be demoted, seems he is in over his head on quality manufacturing and safety on wiring.
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