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Old 04-29-2021, 11:00 PM   #1
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Renegade Classic 38' real world actual weight?

Can anyone advise on the build weight (UVW) or real world in use weight of a 38' new Classic?

How about wheelbase?

Trying to compare to 37' / 38' Verona and Verona LE.
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I think the rule of thumb is 800 lbs per foot.
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Renegade requires the wheelbase of 38 CSB (single axle) to be 299", or 234" back-of-cab to axle. They only order a few frame sizes from the chassis OEM, so they typically shrink or stretch the frame in-house to meet the needs of each floorplan. Renegade told me they're one of the few RV mfgs that are allowed to modify frames. But if you supply the chassis yourself (ordering it from a truck dealer directly) then you can spec the exact frame size that Renegade actually uses for your floorplan, and avoid the shrink/stretch altogether. It saves some money, but more importantly, it eliminates the unnecessary frame cutting and welding. Even though Renegade knows how to do it and does it all the time, it's better to avoid it if possible (IMO).

Build weight will depend a lot on how you spec your rig. As you're aware, it's really easy (and encouraged by the dealers, of course) to add all the options, so the weight (and $) can really add up. Two of the big things you can do if you're trying to minimize build weight: don't do tile floors and stay single axle. Good quality, properly installed tile can weigh 4-5 psf, and single axle cuts chassis weight by almost 2,000 lbs.

I think a 38 CSB, single axle, without tile floors, and with other options "under control" should build out at about 33-34,000 lbs, leaving about 7-8,000 lbs for payload. On a Cascadia P4 116/DD13 or Volvo VNR/D13, this will have better power-weight and torque-weight ratios than anything Renegade builds, and probably any Super C on the market.
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Old 04-30-2021, 08:16 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replies and info. Very helpful.
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Old 04-30-2021, 09:03 AM   #5
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Just weighed our 38 Classic last week. 2021 IWS signature spec. Freightliner, DD13, Allison 4000. Built in early 2020 so Cascadia 113 if I recall correctly. 120 gl of diesel. 25% fresh water. Black / grey tanks empty. Probably 250 lbs of "stuff" onboard.

36,060 lbs.
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Another data point.
2019 Classic
38 with tandem rear axle
DD16 motor DT12 transmission
Tile floors/fiberglass shower
3/4 tank of fuel (120 gallon tank)
No water on board and empty holding tanks
38,800 lbs
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Old 05-16-2021, 08:48 PM   #7
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Thanks to all that replied. Very helpful.
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