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09-29-2020, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RickLV
On our newly purchased 2020 Verona 36VSB we have Bridgestones (295/75R/22.5)in the steerer position with a speed rating of 75MPH...is this the norm ? Just seems to low to me ?
Yep, we are new to this and worry about nearly everything... 
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Your Verona has a governor that governs the max speed to be less than the speed rating of the tires on the vehicle. It won't go faster than 75 MPH anyway! Except down a steep hill!
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09-29-2020, 11:03 AM
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Paul,
Thanks for your timely reply and advise. This forum and all its members make owning a MH a more pleasurable experience when you have questions. Happy trails.
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09-29-2020, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by yeloduster
Your Verona has a governor that governs the max speed to be less than the speed rating of the tires on the vehicle. It won't go faster than 75 MPH anyway! Except down a steep hill!
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Erroneous information only hurts people and may get them killed.
The governor is set for RPM not tire speed ratings. It is set to prevent over revving the engine.
I can assure you the Verona and most RVs I know of can well exceed the tire rating speed. I have banged up against the governor many times on the flats with my Verona. I have also paid a premium for tires in the past so I can safely exceed the stock tire ratings.
On my Blue Bird Wanderlodge I could cruise all day at 85-90 SAFELY without adjusting the governor. It was the only way to travel through Texas and much of the upper tier
Have you ever noticed the big rigs passing you while you are cruising at 75? Oh, wait a minute, your RV can't go that fast.
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This opinion is worth what you paid for it 
2018 Renegade Verona 36VSB
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09-29-2020, 03:05 PM
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More Speed
Rick, I'm with you. My Renegade Classic feels like its loafing down the interstate at 75 mph. While I'm not always in that much of a hurry, its nice not to be a hinderance on the freeway. I've done plenty of mpg comparisons at different speeds, my Renegade seems to have its best power at 75 mph at an RPM of 1700 with an mpg of over 7. I've actually got lower mileage at 60-65 mph on a comparable road trip. So I say hammer down.
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09-29-2020, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziggy8321
Erroneous information only hurts people and may get them killed.
The governor is set for RPM not tire speed ratings. It is set to prevent over revving the engine.
I can assure you the Verona and most RVs I know of can well exceed the tire rating speed. I have banged up against the governor many times on the flats with my Verona. I have also paid a premium for tires in the past so I can safely exceed the stock tire ratings.
On my Blue Bird Wanderlodge I could cruise all day at 85-90 SAFELY without adjusting the governor. It was the only way to travel through Texas and much of the upper tier
Have you ever noticed the big rigs passing you while you are cruising at 75? Oh, wait a minute, your RV can't go that fast.
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What kind of brakes are you running on that Bluebird? No way the OEM drum brakes were designed to take you from 90 to a dead stop anytime fast. Hate to be the guy in front of you when traffic comes to a sudden stop on the Interstate.
Just because you can go 90 doesn't make it safe to do so.
Yes - truck drivers push the limits every day. And they sometimes die trying and take out other innocent drivers with them.
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1994 Excella 25-ft (Gertie)
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09-29-2020, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KFed 90-10
Rick, I'm with you. My Renegade Classic feels like its loafing down the interstate at 75 mph. While I'm not always in that much of a hurry, its nice not to be a hinderance on the freeway. I've done plenty of mpg comparisons at different speeds, my Renegade seems to have its best power at 75 mph at an RPM of 1700 with an mpg of over 7. I've actually got lower mileage at 60-65 mph on a comparable road trip. So I say hammer down.
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09-29-2020, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggy8321
Erroneous information only hurts people and may get them killed.
The governor is set for RPM not tire speed ratings. It is set to prevent over revving the engine.
I can assure you the Verona and most RVs I know of can well exceed the tire rating speed. I have banged up against the governor many times on the flats with my Verona. I have also paid a premium for tires in the past so I can safely exceed the stock tire ratings.
On my Blue Bird Wanderlodge I could cruise all day at 85-90 SAFELY without adjusting the governor. It was the only way to travel through Texas and much of the upper tier
Have you ever noticed the big rigs passing you while you are cruising at 75? Oh, wait a minute, your RV can't go that fast.
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Well said. Most Interstates are 75 mph. Staying close to the flow of traffic is the most important thing for safety. If you are passing to many people you are going to fast. If to many people are passing you you are going to slow. And are "that" guy which we see all to often. :( Some will even risk safety by going to slow to "save fuel" How stupid is that ?
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09-29-2020, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Ted
Well said. Most Interstates are 75 mph. Staying close to the flow of traffic is the most important thing for safety. If you are passing to many people you are going to fast. If to many people are passing you you are going to slow. And are "that" guy which we see all to often. :( Some will even risk safety by going to slow to "save fuel" How stupid is that ?
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Actually, no.
Where are the stats that show a heavy vehicle needs to drive close to the flow of traffic to stay safe? Where are the stats which show a motor home is more dangerous traveling at 65 or 70 than it is at speeds in excess of 80mph as Ziggy is talking about?
In the training I completed this spring for a major trucking company, we were taught the opposite. A heavy vehicle cannot maneuver or brake nearly as well as a car. Trying to keep up with traffic is a sure way to get into a dangerous situation in a heavy vehicle.
Extra distance needs to be kept in front of a heavy vehicle like a motor home, and speed needs to be kept within the ability of the vehicle to stop and maneuver on the road.
There's a good reason many company trucks have a governor set at 65 mph, and it's not just fuel economy. Safety is the big reason speed is governed. We drivers received weekly accident reports for the entire company, and I never saw one which listed the reason for the accident as "going too slow". Just didn't happen that way.
To me, saying it's safer to keep up with traffic when the speed is above the safe limits for a vehicle is just an excuse to do what you want and drive fast.
It will be difficult to make an argument to support the safety of driving any motor home on the roads at speeds of 85-90 mph. Just because a driver is able to do this without an accident yet doesn't mean that it's safe to do it.
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09-29-2020, 06:38 PM
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Tire Speed Ratings Verona 36VSB
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Originally Posted by richard5933
Actually, no.
Where are the stats that show a heavy vehicle needs to drive close to the flow of traffic to stay safe? Where are the stats which show a motor home is more dangerous traveling at 65 or 70 than it is at speeds in excess of 80mph as Ziggy is talking about?
In the training I completed this spring for a major trucking company, we were taught the opposite. A heavy vehicle cannot maneuver or brake nearly as well as a car. Trying to keep up with traffic is a sure way to get into a dangerous situation in a heavy vehicle.
Extra distance needs to be kept in front of a heavy vehicle like a motor home, and speed needs to be kept within the ability of the vehicle to stop and maneuver on the road.
There's a good reason many company trucks have a governor set at 65 mph, and it's not just fuel economy. Safety is the big reason speed is governed. We drivers received weekly accident reports for the entire company, and I never saw one which listed the reason for the accident as "going too slow". Just didn't happen that way.
To me, saying it's safer to keep up with traffic when the speed is above the safe limits for a vehicle is just an excuse to do what you want and drive fast.
It will be difficult to make an argument to support the safety of driving any motor home on the roads at speeds of 85-90 mph. Just because a driver is able to do this without an accident yet doesn't mean that it's safe to do it.
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Unless you’ve driven interstate 10 west of Ozona Tx you wouldn’t understand why someone would want to run 80-85 mph in a motorhome. Not that I would run 85. But it’s hundreds of miles of the most desolate stretch of highway you can imagine with an 80mph speed limit. At 65 mph you risk falling asleep. Lol
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09-29-2020, 06:44 PM
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Hope they stay there....or be ready for tickets out here
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Originally Posted by Rob_M
Unless you’ve driven interstate 10 west of Ozona Tx you wouldn’t understand why someone would want to run 80-85 mph in a motorhome. Not that I would run 85. But it’s hundreds of miles of the most desolate stretch of highway you can imagine with an 80mph speed limit. At 65 mph you risk falling asleep. Lol
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09-29-2020, 06:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_M
Unless you’ve driven interstate 10 west of Ozona Tx you wouldn’t understand why someone would want to run 80-85 mph in a motorhome. Not that I would run 85. But it’s hundreds of miles of the most desolate stretch of highway you can imagine with an 80mph speed limit. At 65 mph you risk falling asleep. Lol
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Well said... Under the RIGHT conditions there is nothing wrong with driving the speed limit. Some people just need to get out more
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09-29-2020, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Ted
Well said... Under the RIGHT conditions there is nothing wrong with driving the speed limit. Some people just need to get out more 
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Let's not be insulting - you have no idea where I (or anyone) has or hasn't driven.
Truck drivers go through those long stretches of highway, and a good many of them have speeds capped at 65mph. I don't remember reading about a rash of accidents caused by them going too slowly - that's because that's not how it worked. If it was truly a safety issue, then companies wouldn't be doing it.
The fact is, motor homes are not intended for going 85-90mph down the road. Doesn't matter how desolate the road, how straight the road, or what all the other drivers are doing.
Each driver is responsible for driving his/her vehicle within the safe limits of ALL the systems on the vehicle. It would be a very rare motor home that can safely make emergency maneuvers or come to a quick stop from that speed. Very few have tires safe for going that speed, especially in the southwest where temps are higher.
Is it more boring to go 65mph through stretches of road like that? Possibly. Get a good book on tape and enjoy the scenery. To me boredom is not a good excuse for going faster than safety permits. All the excuses about why someone "needs" to go faster won't change the fact that increased speed brings increased danger. If it were just you on the road it would be one thing, but last I looked we all share the same roads.
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09-29-2020, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by richard5933
If it were just you on the road it would be one thing, but last I looked we all share the same roads.
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You obviously have missed the fact that in some places it is indeed “just you on the road”.
If you feel safer going slower that’s great and perfect for you. But some of us are perfectly safe at higher speeds. 75mph rated tires are not going to burst into flames at 76mph.
My daily driver is a truck with almost identical weight, brakes and tires my rv has and with 30+ years of experience driving said vehicles, I know my limitations and my vehicles limitations. 80- 85mph is perfectly safe and acceptable in certain places at certain times otherwise the posted speed limits would be adjusted accordingly. Yes we do have 85mph speed limits in Texas.
As my age increases and my reflexes decrease I will adjust my speeds accordingly. As should everyone.
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09-29-2020, 10:32 PM
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The tires are rated to go indefinitely at 75 mph fully loaded. Should never be a problem
I have exceeded 90 mph towing a Honda Ody on 10 going into Quartzsite going up a slight grade for over 10 miles with no trouble.
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