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Old 01-17-2023, 10:16 AM   #29
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$44,000 financed on 60 months is about $850 a month on normal APRs.

$66,000 financed on 60 months for a Tesla would be about $1,300 a month.

Given most families are dealing with increased food costs, higher electricity bills and housing costs out of sight, a two car family will have difficulties affording two new automobiles of any kind.
If this forum is any indication (and it likely isn't), there seem to be plenty of folks lining up to pay that much or far more on an American PU as a TV.

But yes, if you aren't looking to tow or can't afford an RV, the sensible thing to do is to live within your means. No one is owed a shiny new car.
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Old 01-17-2023, 02:16 PM   #31
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My 1972 VW Westy w/2056cc T-4 engine. I get 21mpg (US) on the highway and 16 around town.
I was thinking from the RV point of view it would be the '74 IH TravelAll. Great family station and great TV.

Once stuffed 16 people in it. The ship was at the weapon station which often at remote locations because bad things have happened. I had to go back to base to get one of my sailors out of jail so my wife came and got me.

A sailor asked for a lift and we had plenty room. Then we had plenty of sailors and no more room. The Reese hitch was dragging.
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Old 01-20-2023, 09:30 AM   #32
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My 2010 Nissan Leaf was the best car I ever owned. I will never buy another gas/diesel vehicle again after leasing that for 3 years. And now with the huge ranges standard and how cheap they have gotten, not to mention, some can already power your house during a black out, and the rest will be able to do that in the very near future only a small percentage of drivers need an ICE car. Now if we could only get one that tows 4 wheels down, I would buy it tomorrow. -Bill
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Wall Street is not impressed with the price cuts and Tesla stock dropped another 4%.

Perhaps Musk should stick with driving Twitter into the ground, he'd lose less.

That said, the Tesla cars are fun to drive; the automation stuff I'm less enthused with. My daily driver does about 16,000 miles a year at 28 mpg. I'm not expecting the price of energy, alone, to make the case for switching from dino juice any time soon, but I've already decided that my next daily use car will be electric. I might keep the dino burner for long hauls. Horses for courses, after all!
TSLA is up almost $50. In the last 2 weeks, you had a buying opportunity but failed to recognize it!
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The best car made is just a matter of opinion! But I will never own a EV ! That’s for the next generation as far as I’m concerned! I liked the 55 chevy and own 17 of them !
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tsla is up almost $50. In the last 2 weeks, you had a buying opportunity but failed to recognize it!
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TSLA is up almost $50. In the last 2 weeks, you had a buying opportunity but failed to recognize it!
And if you owned it past March 28, 2022 you missed a selling opportunity. If you continued to hold past that date until today you have recovered to the point you are only down around 50%. It is really easy to be an investment guru when offering nothing but hindsight.
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The competition is starting to react. VW is reviewing pricing and the ID4 price is being lowered in some markets. Ford dropped their Mustang pricing but is holding on the Lightning for now. GM is standing firm on their pricing but they don’t really build that many anyway so not much of an impact.

The real competition is all Asian and at least some of them are dropping prices already. BYD and Xpeng for sure and polestar apparently next week. Hyundai hasn’t announced yet.

Tesla model Y is the number one selling vehicle in Europe now. And I think the model 3 is number 3.

Interesting times.
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And if you owned it past March 28, 2022 you missed a selling opportunity. If you continued to hold past that date until today you have recovered to the point you are only down around 50%. It is really easy to be an investment guru when offering nothing but hindsight.
I am not an investment guru but when it got below 120. I made my move, I did the same when Texas Instruments got below $15. A few years ago. You can call me a bottom feeder but it has worked for me. If you were in TSLA for the long haul this is just a blip on the chart. TSLA is dominant in the EV business so you can still buy now and hold for a few years and make a good return. Most stock prices do not go up in a straight line without some hiccups in price on their way to new highs.
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Just read an article in C&D that insurance rates are high and if a Tesla is in even a small wreck, they will most likely total the car. High rate of Tesla's on the salvage market.
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Just read an article in C&D that insurance rates are high and if a Tesla is in even a small wreck, they will most likely total the car. High rate of Tesla's on the salvage market.
It probably varies by region. Ours is a little more than the grand Cherokee but really not that bad.

I think the under 25 drivers get hit hard though. Ugh.
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The best car made is just a matter of opinion! But I will never own a EV ! Thatís for the next generation as far as Iím concerned! I liked the 55 chevy and own 17 of them !


It sounds as if your a purist, so Iím guessing you wonít be converting one to an EV?
Seriously, any pics of one of your Ď55 Chevys would be appreciated.
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