Highway EV charging network coming soon

[F4Gary]

Originally Posted by dbircky

A generator runs fuel pumps just fine. Most truck stops around here have natural gas powered ones. Nice thing about liquid fuel is you can fuel in pouring rain or standing in a foot of water. I’d be shocked to see some plugging in at a car charger in the same conditions.

Like this place?

[JHinman]

My wife sure likes her EV (Audi E-Tron). Charges in the garage at home, so no standing in the wind and rain to pump gas. It takes $0.043 per mile for electricity instead of $0.21 cents per mile for gasoline that her previous smaller SUV needed. It is also faster, quieter, and smoother than her previous vehicle.

Long trips are easy with her E-Tron. Using Level 3 chargers her recent trip from Boise to Butte MT took about an hour longer than it takes in my sedan, so yes it takes longer but not dramatically longer.

There is a reason why the supercars are all going electric- they are simply much faster.

If I was not towing I’d look hard at an electric pickup. Unfortunately it seems the electrics all have short beds, though, and that is a deal-breaker for me.

[Unplanned Tourist]

[QUOTE=Old-Biscuit;
I have only 1 issue with EVs
That is the misconceived concept they are ZERO emissions and we/planet will be all the better because of EVs


Actually 2 issues........Generating capabilities to provide electricity for EVs and Infrastructure required[/QUOTE]

Shhhhh! The politicians don't want the public to know about those things.

BTW, how is Alaska going to put a charging station every 50 miles? Or is it just on major routes?

[kdauto]

Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit

2011 GMC Sierra 3500HD gas 6.0 dually
1994 K1500 Suburban shop mule and plow truck
No EVs in portfolio


EVs will come about as there are forced down the publics throat.

I have only 1 issue with EVs
That is the misconceived concept they are ZERO emissions and we/planet will be all the better because of EVs


Actually 2 issues........Generating capabilities to provide electricity for EVs and Infrastructure required

No one is forcing anything down anyone's throat. You can buy whatever fuel source you prefer. When/if that really changes, it''ll be no different than when they outlawed leaded gas.

No, we are still waiting on delivery of our Bolt EUV. That would actually be my GFs car, not mine. My Suburban makes a grand total of 600-1000km yearly just to keep it functional. My Sierra is my tow pig, and 75-80% of its use is hauling the RV and/or materials or a work trailer. Why?

Who said an EV is zero emissions? It is true that the VEHICLE is zero emissions, as it has no tailpipe and doesn't spew out any gases or liquids. Remote emissions from any type of power plant, even coal powered, are better than what any ICE vehicle can output. An EV emits nothing in traffic, idling, driving.

Infrastructure is so weak in the USA, it needs a revamp anyway. It'll have to happen no matter what. As it stands today, power generation in the southeast USA will need to be reconfigured. If there's money to be made, and there will be, someone will step in and fix that. If a small (population-wise) country like Canada can produce clean energy over such a wide and sparsely populated area, surely the good ole USA can do the same?

[kdauto]

Originally Posted by F4Gary

Like this place?

And? I wouldn't be afraid to plug in there, it's really no different than plugging in when standing in the rain or wet snow. It sure is a piss poor design for lot drainage, unless that was after a catastrophic event. That image circulates as a really poor argument all the time.

[kdauto]

Originally Posted by Unplanned Tourist

Shhhhh! The politicians don't want the public to know about those things.

BTW, how is Alaska going to put a charging station every 50 miles? Or is it just on major routes?

Why have one every 50 miles? Most of the new EVs are aiming for 400km of range minimum. A charger every 100 miles (160km) is plenty. AFAIK I read that they actually are going to start installing along the Alaskan highway. They have done so far North in Canada already from what I've read.

Most charging is done at home. I wish I could fuel my truck at home while I'm sleeping or doing something else.

[Onyrlef]

Originally Posted by JHinman

My wife sure likes her EV (Audi E-Tron). Charges in the garage at home, so no standing in the wind and rain to pump gas. It takes $0.043 per mile for electricity instead of $0.21 cents per mile for gasoline that her previous smaller SUV needed. It is also faster, quieter, and smoother than her previous vehicle.

Long trips are easy with her E-Tron. Using Level 3 chargers her recent trip from Boise to Butte MT took about an hour longer than it takes in my sedan, so yes it takes longer but not dramatically longer.

There is a reason why the supercars are all going electric- they are simply much faster.

If I was not towing I’d look hard at an electric pickup. Unfortunately it seems the electrics all have short beds, though, and that is a deal-breaker for me.

Formula 1 is way out in front on this issue. They're of course still running ice's but they're augmented by electrical power and those ev's will flat scat. I think for urban driving the ev's are absolutely the way forward, not sure if we're quite there on long range travel, however, but we'll get there.

[Onyrlef]

The CEO.of Exxon in a congressional hearing on the issue said they have scientific evidence an angel in heaven loses her wings everytime someone buys an ev and they know for certain the eyes of kittens are harvested to manufacture ev batteries.

[MarylandRich]

In the Shawshank redemption Brooks said “when I was a young man I saw an automobile once, now they are everywhere “ that took 50 years to go from horses to cars everywhere. Moving to a cleaner future with Evs and renewable power is a good idea, and we should move that direction, but it will take time, and unless there is some amazing breakthroughs in technology , an internal combustion engine and natural gas power will still be the right tool for the job, for some applications. Slow and steady is always the better approach to ram it through no matter the cost or consequences. Wishing something real doesn’t make it real.

[ArtJoyce]

That's great. If ev's are to fully take off we need a good network.

[Onyrlef]

The CEO.of Exxon in a congressional hearing on the issue said they have scientific evidence an angel in heaven loses her wings everytime someone buys an ev and they know for certain the eyes of kittens are harvested to manufacture ev batteries.

[C Beedle]

Originally Posted by David 70

Hi, I'm from the goverment and I'm here to help you. I would say this sentence would apply here.

I can already see big problems with this, power grid is overloaded and the first place they shut down is the EV chargers.

The infrustructure is not in place for this!

[move on]

We need to think about the loss of freedom that will come from everyone being forced onto a government controlled electric grid.

[Archer2]

I kind of hate to jump in on this thread but nobody said I was smart. Take this as an engineering problem. Assume that everybody has agreed to switch all their vehicles to 100% EV. Now today drive down any interstate , street or road and count how many vehicles are fueling or waiting to fuel. That is your baseline electricity need that has to be supported by some sort of infrastructure. Just pick a number of say 150 vehicles fueling per mile (I don’t know that that is realistic but we'll use it any way).
So the demand for energy is at least 50KW up to 375KW PER CHARE STATION. And this is on top of all existing demand for energy (less what it takes to run the fuel pumps now).
Where is the supply for all that added demand when a handful of hot summer days causes brownouts and panic in California right now? Don’t get me wrong, there are solutions but I haven’t heard anybody lay anything concrete out.
It is a huge mistake to ramp up demand by fiat before the supply issues are solved (by the way, I believe that the current inflation numbers are being driven by a political decision to curtail fossil fuel production but before there is any viable substitute.
Drive up the cost of energy artificially and every single product and service is negatively impacted world-wide. This is not a demand-side recession caused by post-Covid consumer spending. it is a deliberate supply-side cut in order to force a global contraction of economic activity.
It’s always “that's somebody else’s problem. They'll figure something out.” What if the solution turns out to be small nuclear power plants across the entire length and breadth of the country? Everybody in the Green Party going to agree to that?
So that’s what I think but that doesn't make me right.