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Old 09-30-2022, 06:26 PM   #43
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With all due respect, you know how this thread will end. It always does. This thread opened with a political statement. "Final approval to fund EV charging stations every 50 miles along highways happened yesterday." This is an intentionally misleading statement meant to elicit a response.

Allow them or not, but every EV thread is a political discussion.

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Old 09-30-2022, 06:39 PM   #44
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EV’s are coming like it or not. Hate all you want, it wont stop the auto manufactures. Most have said 2035 is the end of ICE production.

Like everything else, don’t like Coke? Don’t drink it. Drugs? Don’t do them. Don’t like EV’s? Keep what you got. It’s not like ICE vehicles will be illegal then.

Plus most of us in 13 years will be driving a wheelchair, maybe….
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I can already see big problems with this, power grid is overloaded and the first place they shut down is the EV chargers.

The infrustructure is not in place for this!
And without a need, the infrastructure will not be built.

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Old 10-02-2022, 12:50 PM   #46
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EV’s are coming like it or not. Hate all you want, it wont stop the auto manufactures. Most have said 2035 is the end of ICE production.

Like everything else, don’t like Coke? Don’t drink it. Drugs? Don’t do them. Don’t like EV’s? Keep what you got. It’s not like ICE vehicles will be illegal then.

Plus most of us in 13 years will be driving a wheelchair, maybe….
^^^ This.

We can chest-thump, complain, find all kinds of industry/"gubbermint" conspiracies... and in the end it's likely none of us will be potential buyers of that generation of EVs because they'll be prying our cold, dead hands off the steering wheels of our 1999-2005 DPs.

It's our kids and grandkids that will be deciding what floor plan and fuel best fits their RV experience needs, and how far they want to travel, etc. "We" are not really in the picture no matter how much we try to put ourselves in it.
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^^^ This.
in the end it's likely none of us will be potential buyers of that generation of EVs because they'll be prying our cold, dead hands off the steering wheels of our 1999-2005 DPs.

It's our kids and grandkids that will be deciding what floor plan and fuel best fits their RV experience needs, and how far they want to travel, etc. "We" are not really in the picture no matter how much we try to put ourselves in it.
Ouch, but true.

It sucks that after we live through all the stupid life events, “improvements” and “idiotic” policies and finally know what should be done…

… our parking meters flips to EXPIRED.

I think i’ll go outside and yell at a cloud.
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Infrastructure is a valid concern and it seems to develop in some places faster than others. Without a doubt the whole EV travel as well as towing an RV with an EV travelling or touring becomes a non issue with good infrastructure. We certainly had no issues on our last 21 day road trip thru BC. What we have found after 15000 kilometres of towing and touring this summer is that we have changed our approach somewhat to how we travel. Much of the charging is done as a concurrent activity while getting groceries, or taking a road break or walking the chihuahua or having lunch or whatever. Almost always we use the time to our advantage.

I’m not on the PC right now so can’t post pics but I’ll drop a link to our last RV road trip of the year to Vancouver island and the Sunshine Coast. If you are not into boring travel pictures just skip to the end where there are a few pics and graphs of electric vehicle related data from our last trip. We are part of an EV towing and RV group so I just copied them from our post there to here. This link is to an irv2 thread.

https://www.irv2.com/forums/f38/our-...ml#post6322741
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we have changed our approach somewhat to how we travel. Much of the charging is done as a concurrent activity while getting groceries, or taking a road break or walking the chihuahua or having lunch or whatever. Almost always we use the time to our advantage.

https://www.irv2.com/forums/f38/our-...ml#post6322741
Interesting, I can see how time management plays into the future of EV. Not much different thought process than plugging in our ipads and iphone/android phones.

It’s like that movieField of Dreams: “if you build it, they will come”.
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For electric boats...
"Electric Boat"... uh.. submarines?
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A step forward, interested in the rollout and I suppose it will vary state by state. Who will own the chargers, who will maintain them, who profits from their use?? If the answer is the government, will they be able to track you.
You are tracked now with your credit cards and cell phones and those are private companies. Not to mention online.
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There are 2 facts that will delay any significant additions to the EV charging infrastructure in the US.

1. Our grid simply won't handle the load. In some cases we are close to failure now.

2. We simply don't generate enough electricity for any additional loads. This problem is getting worse rather than better. At least in the midwest where we are from. I work closely with several people at our local utility company. We were VERY close to rolling blackouts this summer and it is getting worse. Every time they close down a power plant they lose more capacity. Replacing it with wind and solar just isn't working. That is not a political statement, just the truth. Until we can either fire back up some of the plants we have or come up with a better alternative there will be an issue with the total amount of available power.

Until those 2 issues are fixed there won't be any significant increase in available charging stations. That alone would prevent me from going electric with the possible exception of a local commuter.
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