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Old 05-17-2022, 03:14 AM   #1
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So much closer than we think

Tesla is taking orders for the Tesla semi:


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The eCascadia from Freightliner:


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https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-...-sales-europe/
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Old 05-17-2022, 08:05 AM   #2
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Refrigerated cargo need not apply.
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Accepting reservations ($20,000 each) is not the same as taking orders as there still is not a published build or delivery date. Call a restaurant and make a reservation, that doesn’t mean your food order is made at that moment.

Tesla is accepting interest free loans again….
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Why not? They'd still be running diesel powered refers..lol
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Why not? They'd still be running diesel powered refers..lol
Did you see the pictures? How is the reefer unit gonna breathe?
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Did you see the pictures? How is the reefer unit gonna breathe?
I don’t know but they’ll need to figure something out.
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Lot's of questions, does the trailer come with it for the prices mentioned or just the tractor? They're saying the motors are on the rear two axles but not clear if that means the tractor axles or the trailer axles. They mentioned 80K fully loaded but no mention of payload, wondering how much the batteries will weigh and where they will be located. Interesting though, will probably start out with in city or more local distribution. I can see grocery warehouses using them for local distribution for instance here in Tucson our warehouses are in Tolleson a little over a hundred miles away and there are hundreds of deliveries a day. As mentioned refrigeration would have to be worked out. Self driving ones would be appealing to the warehouses in terms of cost savings.
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Meh, the power required for refrigeration would be a small percentage compared to motive forces. Same as HVAC in electric cars.
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Meh, the power required for refrigeration would be a small percentage compared to motive forces. Same as HVAC in electric cars.
The reefer unit needs to breathe. Not possible in the pictures.
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Ah yes. Good point.
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The reefer unit is probably an "artist rendering" or mock up. Also I'd expect that Tesla is concentrating on tractors as there are plenty of trailer builders already.
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Personally I can not image how long it will take to properly charge one of the batteries in the EV tractors, or how far the tractors will be able to go on a full charge, let alone one of those 80% charges that you get on the road.

I am probably a bit of a cynic but I suspect that what will happen is that most cross continental truck traffic will continue to use diesels, but they will bring the trailers to central locations outside of California so that the trailers can be switched to EV tractors and enter California. Otherwise I think that cross country freight bills will be enormous due to the long time it takes to get something from, say New York to California.

I will believe this is all true when I see long haul Amazon and UPS trucks using EV tractors.
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Personally I can not image how long it will take to properly charge one of the batteries in the EV tractors, or how far the tractors will be able to go on a full charge, let alone one of those 80% charges that you get on the road.
How about getting any charge at all in California , during a summer time brown out , when there already asking EV drivers not to charge their cars.

Here in BC , we have a partially completed hydro/electric dam/reservoir/electric plant ; just referred to as Site C at the moment, it's been under construction for 6+ years now ; they figure if all vehicles are electric we'd need 29 of them to supply power .

They are already talking nuclear plants to supply power .
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How about getting any charge at all in California , during a summer time brown out , when there already asking EV drivers not to charge their cars.

Here in BC , we have a partially completed hydro/electric dam/reservoir/electric plant ; just referred to as Site C at the moment, it's been under construction for 6+ years now ; they figure if all vehicles are electric we'd need 29 of them to supply power .

They are already talking nuclear plants to supply power .
Meanwhile China is building coal plants at a small fraction of the cost of a hydroelectric dam, and ready to produce in about a year. Hydroelectric sounds nice but in reality I think we have to forget about it as a significant future source of energy.
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