RV News RVBusiness 2021 Top 10 RVs of the Year, plus 56 additional debuts and must-see units → ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > Electric RVs and EV Charging
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-17-2021, 05:51 PM   #239
Senior Member
 
wanderso's Avatar
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,139
The worlds first Electric RV is coming!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_M View Post
We fit squarely in with folks you reference. Still working full time. We try to do one weekend a month and 1 or 2 long trips per year. Maybe 50% overnights without hookups.


Yep. Just like us and many who I know in Oregon and Southwest Washington. Getting into state parks can be especially challenging on weekends west of the Cascade mountains and Central Oregon. Quite clear that there are many weekenders. The shift since I started in the early 90s away from primally tent camping to primarily RVs and camper vans has also been dramatic.
__________________
History:'05 Concord, '08 View, '05 Chinook, '01 Jamboree 24D, '78 Apache Popup, 81 Komfort Tlr,
84 Mazda B2000 'w canopy,Tent from wedding in '96
wanderso is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 02-17-2021, 06:04 PM   #240
Senior Member
 
Unplanned Tourist's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Kamloops, BC, 60 miles from the Center of the Universe
Posts: 4,701
I can se it now.

Big signs saying "Absolutly No ERV Charging on Weekends"
__________________
Happy Glamping, Norman & Elna. 2008 Winnebago Adventurer 38J, W24, dozens of small thirsty ponies. Retired after 40 years wrenching on trucks! 2010 Ford Ranger toad with bicycles or KLR 650 in the back. Easy to spot an RVer, they always walk around with a screwdriver or wrench in one hand!
Unplanned Tourist is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2021, 06:11 PM   #241
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,026
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unplanned Tourist View Post
I can se it now.

Big signs saying "Absolutly No ERV Charging on Weekends"
As an EVer I would have no problem with that. It sends the message loud and clear and allows social media to spread the word fast that that particular campground doesn’t want EVers pulling trailers in their park. Much easier to plan that way.

I think they’ll be an app out soon enough indicating EV friendly campgrounds. There is already one in Winfield that has an L2 charger for clients. They are on the plugshare app.
radar is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2021, 09:28 AM   #242
Senior Member
 
Gordon Dewald's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 13,629
Quote:
Originally Posted by radar View Post
As an EVer I would have no problem with that. It sends the message loud and clear and allows social media to spread the word fast that that particular campground doesn’t want EVers pulling trailers in their park. Much easier to plan that way.

I think they’ll be an app out soon enough indicating EV friendly campgrounds. There is already one in Winfield that has an L2 charger for clients. They are on the plugshare app.
Going to be interesting to see how this works out.

The RV park we winter in has recently solar paneled the clubhouse, library/pool hall, office building and the remote washrooms. They are also talking about covering the storage area with panels.

Due to old wiring issues they are going to replace the wiring in the entire park. Plans are to do this in the coming summer.

It will be interesting to see how many L2 or better chargers they install during the upgrade.
__________________
Gordon and Janet
Tour 42QD/InTech Stacker
Gordon Dewald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2021, 09:50 PM   #243
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 348
A test drive in the first all electric RV!
Johnynorthla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2021, 02:02 AM   #244
Member
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 74
VERY impressive!
I loved how quiet it is. The rattles and road noise would normally be masked by the drivetrain noise.


I still think the most practical "next step" in all this
is a diesel powered hybrid with 100 kWh. of lithium battery.


* normal diesel operation
* extra HP in addition to the diesel power when you need it
* 'stealthy' entrance into campgrounds after dark or early morning departures
* regen braking
* Dry camping with 100 kWh. batteries? YES!!
journeyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 09:03 AM   #245
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 385
Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman View Post
VERY impressive!
Maybe by comparison with earlier versions, but still not ready for prime time, at least here in the US. At least IMHO.

400 Km on a charge sounds great, but since you don't want to run out of charge you will stop to recharge at about 3/4. That is 300 Km or about 190 miles. That is not too bad, but then 2 hours for a fast recharge? 2 hours? And that will only get you to 70% so your next leg will only about about 130 miles. Combined they get about what we usually do in a day, but require a 2 hour wait for the "fast" recharge.

Oh, and then at the RV park it will take several days to recharge? Days?

No thank you. It is getting better, and will get there eventually, but it is not there yet for use in the US, especially in the western part of the US,
AJMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 09:14 AM   #246
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,026
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJMike View Post
Maybe by comparison with earlier versions, but still not ready for prime time, at least here in the US. At least IMHO.

400 Km on a charge sounds great, but since you don't want to run out of charge you will stop to recharge at about 3/4. That is 300 Km or about 190 miles. That is not too bad, but then 2 hours for a fast recharge? 2 hours? And that will only get you to 70% so your next leg will only about about 130 miles. Combined they get about what we usually do in a day, but require a 2 hour wait for the "fast" recharge.

Oh, and then at the RV park it will take several days to recharge? Days?

No thank you. It is getting better, and will get there eventually, but it is not there yet for use in the US, especially in the western part of the US,
I disagree...sort of. It depends on the type of RVing. It takes us a month to travel a thousand kilometers. Travelling 300 km in one day means you just passed a half dozen pretty interesting areas to camp, hike, fish etc etc. When we are tour camping we are usually on the road by 10, off the road by 1 and setup for a few days.

Doesn’t work for everybody but would work for us.

Jmho.
radar is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 09:31 AM   #247
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 385
Quote:
Originally Posted by radar View Post
I disagree...sort of. It depends on the type of RVing. It takes us a month to travel a thousand kilometers. Travelling 300 km in one day means you just passed a half dozen pretty interesting areas to camp, hike, fish etc etc. When we are tour camping we are usually on the road by 10, off the road by 1 and setup for a few days.

Doesn’t work for everybody but would work for us.

Jmho.
When we are traveling we generally are going someplace specific for some specific reason. If you are just free-wheeling out on the road, then I might agree that the distance is not really an issue, but the recharge time of 2 hours for a "fast recharge" and "several days" for recharge at a campground is just far too long for us and, I think, for most people who travel in RVs.

There are certainly times when we have those "I wonder what is down that road" moments, and there are times when we don't know where we are going to go next, but whatever location we choose is likely to be too far for the distances available in this electric RV.

One added complication - if you run out of your charge because you can't find a recharge station then no one is going to be able to bring you a 1 gallon can of recharge like they would with gas or diesel. Yes, t hey can bring a truck with electric recharge capability but I wonder how long that will take.

I think the idea of an electric RV is great, and am sure we will eventually get there, but I don't think we are there now, nor will be in the next 5 years. I think the best bet in the short term would be a hybrid vehicle, but then that is just me. I do wonder what will happen in California if, when 2035 arrives, there is no viable electric RV. Will they ban RV sales? Will they delay the deadline for RVs? Will they allow hybrid vehicles?

ADDED:

One other question. What will this do to boondocking? How is an RV ever to get recharged off of roof top solar? If an electric connection at an RV park will take several days to recharge how long will solar take? Or will they carry gas/diesel generators specifically for recharging the drive batteries? And what would that do to the whole concept of "zero emissions"?

Yes. They will solve these problems, but the solution may well be something we are not even thinking about now.
AJMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 03:53 PM   #248
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 160
With what just happened to 1000's of RVer's in Texas this winter with no power, water and all that, that just re-enforces to me that I would never have an all electric anything.
__________________
Couple FTing for 4yrs.
35' Gas Winnie,
Escapees, Maintenance Freak
mr.tommy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 04:11 PM   #249
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,026
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJMike View Post
When we are traveling we generally are going someplace specific for some specific reason. If you are just free-wheeling out on the road, then I might agree that the distance is not really an issue, but the recharge time of 2 hours for a "fast recharge" and "several days" for recharge at a campground is just far too long for us and, I think, for most people who travel in RVs.

There are certainly times when we have those "I wonder what is down that road" moments, and there are times when we don't know where we are going to go next, but whatever location we choose is likely to be too far for the distances available in this electric RV.

One added complication - if you run out of your charge because you can't find a recharge station then no one is going to be able to bring you a 1 gallon can of recharge like they would with gas or diesel. Yes, t hey can bring a truck with electric recharge capability but I wonder how long that will take.

I think the idea of an electric RV is great, and am sure we will eventually get there, but I don't think we are there now, nor will be in the next 5 years. I think the best bet in the short term would be a hybrid vehicle, but then that is just me. I do wonder what will happen in California if, when 2035 arrives, there is no viable electric RV. Will they ban RV sales? Will they delay the deadline for RVs? Will they allow hybrid vehicles?

ADDED:

One other question. What will this do to boondocking? How is an RV ever to get recharged off of roof top solar? If an electric connection at an RV park will take several days to recharge how long will solar take? Or will they carry gas/diesel generators specifically for recharging the drive batteries? And what would that do to the whole concept of "zero emissions"?

Yes. They will solve these problems, but the solution may well be something we are not even thinking about now.
Hard to say. But for the smaller motorhomes it would not take days on a standard 14-50 campground connection. Maybe one full day. But even an overnight charge on a standard 50 amp service would probably get you around a half a charge. Mind you one would probably have to rent a second site for access to the 50 amp service, or possibly use a J1772 L2 EVSE if the campground has one installed. There is a campground up the road from us that installed one. I suspect that will get more common.
radar is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 05:39 PM   #250
Senior Member
 
dbircky's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Solo Rvers Club
Coastal Campers
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 310
Nobody talks about the very significant gain in weight and cost going from ice to battery. A Tesla 3 is 20% heavier than the larger Honda Accord. Both have about the same range, the Honda is also 42% less costly. Scale that all up to a MH?
Over tire capacity before you put a box of tissues inside. I’m not sure anyone is excited to pay 42% more for a MH.
We have two trips planned this summer. One is 1,900 miles one way, the other is 1,500 miles one way. I’d have to take two more weeks of vacation to just cover the charging times. Yes, we do drive 10 hours plus at a stretch. Time off is limited. Work and a farm only allow so much time away.
__________________
2009 Monaco Camelot 42PDQ
2011 JK
dbircky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2021, 05:49 PM   #251
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,026
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbircky View Post
Nobody talks about the very significant gain in weight and cost going from ice to battery. A Tesla 3 is 20% heavier than the larger Honda Accord. Both have about the same range, the Honda is also 42% less costly. Scale that all up to a MH?
Over tire capacity before you put a box of tissues inside. I’m not sure anyone is excited to pay 42% more for a MH.
We have two trips planned this summer. One is 1,900 miles one way, the other is 1,500 miles one way. I’d have to take two more weeks of vacation to just cover the charging times. Yes, we do drive 10 hours plus at a stretch. Time off is limited. Work and a farm only allow so much time away.
All valid points...except the part about comparing a Tesla model 3 to a Honda Accord. Probably best to compare the Tesla to another premium high performance sport sedan like a BMW. The only way a Tesla model 3 could be as slow and clunky as a Honda Accord is if it was towing one behind it. LOL . One of the reasons Tesla model 3 sells so well is they are already at price parity with comparable gas premium high performance sports sedans.

But yah I get your point. Not everyone tours when they are travelling. There was a time in our lives when we had that kind of schedule as well.

Cheers.
radar is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2021, 07:21 AM   #252
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 348
Johnynorthla is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
electric



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Just spent a couple days at Worlds of Fun and now in Jellystone Campground CoachDJS Camping Locations, Plans & Trip Reports 1 06-13-2011 01:14 AM
The worlds most fuel efficient car Ray,IN iRV2.com General Discussion 11 05-20-2011 08:01 AM
Best of Two Worlds Arctic Owl Canada Region 4 05-05-2007 02:52 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.