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Mapleview · 12-22-2013, 09:24 PM

Have recently bought a 2013 Chevy Silverado 3500 HD LTZ, Dually, diesel, 4wd, 8' bed, extended cab. Does anyone have a similar model SRW or DRW Chevy Silverado?
My truck has a sticker in the glove box stating the recommended weight for a slide-in truck camper. The weight on this sticker is less than the max cargo weight og this model truck? I do not understand why there is a difference. Has anyone with a Chevy Silverado manufactured in 2013 noticed this sticker in the glove box?
Appreciate any advice, as I am picking up a new truck camper in the spring.

Kurtsara · 12-23-2013, 03:26 AM

If the slide in camper weighed what the max cargo weight is allowed in your truck how would you haul the wife and gear in your camper?

dubob · 12-23-2013, 08:39 AM

The max payload weight includes you and any passengers plus gear/cargo. The recommended TC weight does not. It is less to allow your weight, passenger weight, and TC/gear to be added without exceeding the max payload weight.

KD4UPL · 12-25-2013, 06:38 PM

I assume you have a console in the front middle seat position. That would leave you with room for 1 front passenger and 3 in the back for a total of 4. They figure the passengers at 150 pounds each so that knocks 600 pounds off your potential cargo rating.
Remember, your cargo will include: passengers, truck accessories, camper, cargo in the camper, water and propane in the camper, tongue weight of any trailer you may be towing. It all adds up fast. You made a great decision in getting a dually to haul a truck camper.

Mapleview · 12-26-2013, 08:32 AM

Thanks for the advice, but the answer I am looking for is from someone with a Chevy 2013 3500 or 2500 truck. I believe there is a mistake with the sticker in my glove compartment. Someone in the factory made a mistake and entered the SRW code on the computer instead of DRW. GM is fixing the code on the computer, but I am still trying to prove that the wrong weight sticker was put in the glove box.

Scotty14 · 12-26-2013, 09:41 PM

Your dealer should be able to match the VIN on your Chevy to get the correct weight for your Truck. How much Max cargo weight does your sticker read now.
Scott

CAJW · 02-02-2014, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mapleview

Have recently bought a 2013 Chevy Silverado 3500 HD LTZ, Dually, diesel, 4wd, 8' bed, extended cab. Does anyone have a similar model SRW or DRW Chevy Silverado?
My truck has a sticker in the glove box stating the recommended weight for a slide-in truck camper. The weight on this sticker is less than the max cargo weight og this model truck? I do not understand why there is a difference. Has anyone with a Chevy Silverado manufactured in 2013 noticed this sticker in the glove box?
Appreciate any advice, as I am picking up a new truck camper in the spring.

Looking through this thread it doesn't appear your question got answered. I have the exact same truck (except that it's an LT model) and my glove box camper weight sticker states "4174 lbs.". HTH

Oldgoat 1952 · 02-16-2014, 08:50 PM

I have a 2013 GMC 3500 dually crew 4WD. The cargo weight rating on the glove box sticker is 4151#.

Mapleview · 02-17-2014, 10:56 AM

Thanks. Can you send me a photo of your sticker? I do not think there is any VIN or other private info on this sticker. I have been trying to convince GM that they put the wrong sticker in my glove box at the factory. They had a wrong code in their computer showing my vehicle as a SRW. I had to send them photos proving that my vehicle is a DRW.

Mapleview · 02-17-2014, 03:57 PM

Ignore my recent post. I do not need a photo. I just realized It is the same value as my sticker. This number is approx 1,000 lbs less than the max rated cargo weight for this truck model. I also found a sticker on the driver side door stating the max weight capacity of 4,950 with the Michelin tires installed with the vehicle.
I am thinking that the sticker for the slide in truck camper weight is considered the dry weight versus wet weight.

KD4UPL · 02-26-2014, 10:25 AM

The cargo rating subtratacts your passenger load. Do you have 6 seat positions? At 150 pounds each that's 900 pounds. Maybe GM is figuring heavier people these days. I know the airlines had to adjust they're estimates because people are getting fatter.
If you don't have that many people in the truck you can carry more camper.
GM doesn't know or care anything about wet weight vs. dry weight. The difference is different on every camper anyway.
By the way, have you read the manual? My '05 Chevy dually manual explains it on page 4-61.

elkhornsun · 02-26-2014, 05:56 PM

The sticker is for the lawyers at GM to protect them from a lawsuit. It serves little else. You want to go to a CAT scale and weigh the truck. Check the load rating for the 4 tires at the DRW inflation pressure which will be less than with the same tires on a SRW truck and determine the load the tires will support at the rear axle. Subtract the weight of the truck on the rear axle and that is the load that can be supported. The GM trucks use a AAM axle at the rear and the axle and wheel bearings are rated for 10,900 lbs. so it is not the limiting factor with the truck.

bilb2765 · 04-19-2014, 07:25 PM

What is the weight on your door jamb? I have your older brother, (2011 LTZ Dually), and my door says 13,000 lbs. Minus the weight of the truck, you should have plenty to spare.

elkhornsun · 04-27-2014, 06:09 PM

The sticker is based on the weakest link with your truck. The rear axle and wheel bearings are rated at 10,900 lbs. and with your truck weighing in at 3200 lbs. or less at the drive axle that leaves 7700 lbs. if the tires and rims and springs are up to that amount of load. After the truck leaves the factory the dealer or the truck owner can make changes that increase or decrease the load capacity of the truck. The sticker is a starting point but not the "gospel" (nothing really is for that matter).

With DRW you cannot have the 4 rear tires at their maximum PSI so their total load capacity will be less than 4x the load rating on the side of the tires. You can start with the recommended tire pressures from GM for your truck and use the tire manufacturer's PSI and load capacity chart to calculate the load the 4 rear tires can handle. Subtract the weight of the truck when empty at the rear axle and you will have a maximum payload. This is not the same as the maximum safe payload with a top heavy camper in the bed but it is a starting point.

Lots of suspension modifications that people do to help with handling with a camper. The good news is that your 2013 like the new Ram trucks has a very stiff frame and that helps immensely with handling.

As mentioned the truck companies subtract 150 lbs. of payload rating for each passenger seat in the truck. This affects the theoretical payload only as the camper load is 95% on the rear axle. Half the passenger or cab load is supported by the front suspension and tires and not the drive axle.

When you have a truck that can safely tow over 17,000 lbs. the payload in the bed is not a factor except for the support that the rear rims and tires and rear leaf springs are able to provide.