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Old 01-19-2020, 10:18 PM   #1
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Payload capacity question

Hello everyone,

Husband and I have basically narrowed down to what truck camper we want.

2020 northern lite 8-11exle
2019 Ram cummins 3500 HO crew cab 4wd big horn

So... we havent got the TC yet that will be in next month or so. My question was after we have the camper weight, fresh water and propane weight, us 2 and the dogs theres only about 500-600 lbs left for food grill camp chairs etc. All that stuff. And then it would be at our absolute max payload capacity.

Is this ok? Should we be looking for somthing closer to 2k lb dry ?

I guess i just am aprehensive about being at 100% our max payload vs keeping a bit of a buffer there.

Am i being overly cautious?
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Old 01-19-2020, 11:40 PM   #2
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Sidenote, our #2 pick and somewhat leaning towards is the lance 825. Nearly 1klb lighter and still from a pretty reputable brand with atrue queen bed and good sized wet bath. I also love the amount of prep space in the kitchen next to the stove. And of course so muchmore leeway in the payload capacity as its a muchlighter truck camper
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:43 AM   #3
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I think we should all stay within our comfort zones, so whichever you feel most comfortable with would be the answer, IMHO.

When we got our last TC, a '92 11.5' Caribou and '89 W250 Cummins in '93, I weighed the front and rear axles with the TC fully loaded and ready to go. The front axle was significantly below max, but the rear axle was at max or slightly over, as were the rear tires. Knowing that, I somewhat closely monitored the rear wheel bearing temps and kept what I thought were the best tires available on it. That worked for me for 23 years and over 200k miles, but I also did all the maintenance on the truck and camper so I was closely familiar with what was going on in that respect.

Best of luck with your choice, and happy camping.

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Old 01-20-2020, 01:18 PM   #4
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I used to worry about the whole payload question. I got tired of worrying about what camper I had or how much I loaded into it. My solution... I bought a Ford F-550 after I put a big flat bed on it I still had 8K of payload left. I can buy any camper and still load it to the max and have head room. That said I know that this not a good option for everyone. As long as you are right at your payload rating then there are options to make the truck handle better. Sway bars and air bags go along way to help a truck handle their max rated payload and still make the driver feel confident in the trucks handling characteristics. So in my opinion running your truck at max payload with a couple of suspension add on's and you would be fine.
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A SRW pickup with OEM rims and tires will be limited to around 7250 lbs on the rear axle. Empty, that truck will have about 3000 lbs on the rear axle. As has been posted, the front axle limits rarely are a problem.


I have upgraded a 3/4t to carry a 4000 lb camper and now have a 1-1/2t carrying a 6000 lb camper with minimal changes. Both were steady, reliable and safe but each required a different approach to get there. I upgraded to 19.5" wheels and heavier suspension requiring about $3000 back in 2012. You will spend more now (especially if you do not do your own installations).
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Old 01-20-2020, 05:14 PM   #6
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Payload capacity question

Iím not sure if i had the money, and was looking at a NL, why a lance. Two totally different types of campers.

I understand the supposed weight difference, but not sure in real life it will be that much.
If not towing with a tongue weight your p/u is way capable of handling that NL.
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Thanks.

Thanks for the info and advice!.

Might look into upgrading wheels and tires and staying with the northern lite. Not sure. Or at least planning\preparing for that once we full time again.

I think someone asked why go with a lance if considering a northern lite. Mostly weight and money. Nl Host and Bigfoot were our first 3 choices but when it came down to it weight really got in the way.

Then we nix'd host because we loved it but...dont think we want slides. Then we just liked the NL over bigfoot layouts.

And then looked at the weight ratings and tanks etc and came looking for advice on that.

Sounds like its not really the end of the world though. Probably look into some sway bars and air bags etc just to be safe.

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That's why we have a 3500 dually under our 3000 series Bigfoot, plenty CCC to spare. And we will be pulling an enclosed trailer for our toys
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Gypsy, Im assuming your RAM 3500 is a single rear wheel, (not a dually).
If so your rear axle max capacity is 7000 Lb.

If you already own the truck all the capacityís are on the B-column sticker.
IMHO being Ďsomewhatí overloaded is not a problem but keep it reasonable.

>> If you want a shock look at the truck camper certification for your truck. My SRW Ram 3500 is only Ďratedí for a 1301 pound camper!
BTW, my Northstar Arrow-U weighs 3700 pounds.
<oh well>

Happy camping,
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:50 AM   #10
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completely agree with jake. I go by max graw, and max tire load. never exceed either of those. I am over gvwr, and anemic payload, but not those 2.
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also what dix39 said. lots of miles and experience there.
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also what dix39 said. lots of miles and experience there.
Thanks Larry, I would say the same about you.

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I agree with Jake, however now that I have a truck camper,it is much different than hauling gravel,or firewood and such. I had a 3/4 ton that I hauled 4 tons of gravel many time with no problem. This 2018 Ram 2500 that I have could not come close to that,and a truck camper catches wind and handles so much different. I am just under my payload with the truck camper,but my truck need some work to get it to handle it at speed. I recommend when buying a truck camper to load it on the truck you intend to use and try it. I wish I had. As far as pulling,my Ram can far exceed what is recommended.It has the power,can handle and stop without a problem.load it in the bed and that’s a different story.
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just one question;
does your 3/4 dodge have rear coil springs?
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