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Old 03-30-2021, 06:43 PM   #1
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Stableload instead of airbags?

I'm starting to equip my truck with all this hardware since I got the ok from my wife to soon pull the trigger on a truck camper. I have an 07 Chevy Silverado duramax 2500 ext cab, long bed. So in 07 I think they're obviously not rated as high as the newer models. I'm at a 9200 gvwr so ideally something like a wolf creek or north star laredo is what I have in mind.

I was reading and watching some videos on the torklift stableload and kind of like the thought over the airbags setups. Is that a viabale option for a setup like what I'm going for? I'll do the airbags if I have to but just trying to see if I can keep things a bit simpler
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Old 03-30-2021, 07:02 PM   #2
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Truck camper magazine had an article on them. might change your mind.
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Old 03-30-2021, 07:19 PM   #3
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If you have a link please share.. I know they have a pretty deep website.
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Old 03-30-2021, 08:02 PM   #4
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Just tcm.com, then on the main page look under equipment. They have articles for 3-4 susp. enhancements. sorry no dirwct link.
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Just tcm.com, then on the main page look under equipment. They have articles for 3-4 susp. enhancements. sorry no dirwct link.

There is no heading for equipment on the main page.
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Old 03-31-2021, 05:56 PM   #6
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I havenít looked for awhile but their in there. Theres all kinds of articles. Everything is on campers and camper related. youíll just have to look.
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https://www.truckcampermagazine.com/...ll-and-review/
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I like my stable loads upper and lower, I would rather ride on springs than a ball filled with air. I have a heavy camper so keeping things on metal is better for me. Less tipping from side to side even with 100lbs in them.
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So is the upper considered to be like the Timbren or sumo spring? That's the kind of setup Im looking for but didn't know if I can do both.

Basically have the timbren rubber set up and stableload together. I think it's probably about time for new shocks as well... any recommendations there? It looks like alot of people go for the Rancho 9000 but the guys at the auto parts store in town are saying the Rancho 5000 are good to go for a TC setup ��*♂️
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I'm waiting for air bags before I put my Wolf Creek back on my 3500. She goes right down to about 1/2" from the stops. We will see how these air bags (Firestone 2709 Red Label) help out the springs. Might also have to replace the shocks, but one job at a time.
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Old 06-04-2021, 09:58 AM   #11
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I'm waiting for air bags before I put my Wolf Creek back on my 3500. She goes right down to about 1/2" from the stops. We will see how these air bags (Firestone 2709 Red Label) help out the springs. Might also have to replace the shocks, but one job at a time.
A proper rear spring pack is the answer, but like most overloaded truck-camper owners I too simply added a set of airbags.
Its a quick & cheap way to force an overloaded vehicle to sit level.
* BTW, if I ever go to a spring shop and have proper springs made for my payload my airbags would go in the trash and get replaced with Timbren's.
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It looks like a lot of people go for the Rancho 9000 but the guys at the auto parts store in town are saying the Rancho 5000 are good to go for a TC setup.
Just for a little fun ask "the guys at the auto parts store" what the specific differences between the Rancho 5000 & 9000 are.
  • Might want to ask em' what experience they've had with both the 5000 and 9000 on their own truck.
  • Ask em' if they've ever owned a truck camper before.
  • Ask em' if they even own a pickup truck and if they have ever moved anything heavier than a bag of groceries in it.
^^^ That was kinda' fun! ^^^

But anyway here's a few specifics on the 5000 & 9000 Rancho shocks. . .

RS5000X
2.25" shock body.
16mm rod.
Twin tube internal construction.
35mm bore.
Non-adjustable.

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RS9000XL
2.75" shock body.
18mm rod.
Triple tube internal construction.
9 position adjustable.

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And always remember the truck camper's creed;
"Airbags Fix Everything"



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Electrojake my truck is not overloaded. Right now, I am within the numbers. After I get everything in I might be, but I will of course strive to keep the weight down.
If you go with the spring upgrade, you better keep the camper on it because taking it off will shake your teeth out. I want to be able to run the truck around without the camper on it so for this situation, adjustable air ride systems are preferable.
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1.) Electrojake my truck is not overloaded. Right now, I am within the numbers. After I get everything in I might be, but I will of course strive to keep the weight down.

2.) If you go with the spring upgrade, you better keep the camper on it because taking it off will shake your teeth out. I want to be able to run the truck around without the camper on it so for this situation, adjustable air ride systems are preferable.
1.) A wolf Creek is an impressive camper. They are a good build at a reasonable price & weight, (and be glad you got the GMC).
My little Arrow-U camper pretty much puts the "crush" on my Ram 3500, but then again I'm a SRW shortbed so my payload rating is garbage.

2.) 100% agreed Longshore but in my case stiffer shackle springs would have to be a better option than the heavy collection of expensive bolt-on garbage I'm currently using to help my rear suspension.
Namely:
  • A set of RideRite 5000 airbags,
  • Helwig 2500 Lb. leaf style helper springs,
  • A Roadmaster HD rear sway-bar,
  • A frame brace,
  • Lower stable-loads,
  • Plus I moved the spare tire to the front of the truck to try and get some more weight off the rear axle,
  • Completely removed the rear seat from the truck to off-load every scrap of dead-weight I could think of.
  • Hell, I even removed the floor mats!
  • I've also gotten used to NOT carrying a generator and keeping my water tanks empty when I travel.
Yes Sir, I know a thing or two about being over GVWR and payload, and my rear GAWR!
Basically I'm a rolling DOT violation. . .



I think my next rig will be a pup-tent in the back of a dually. Maybe then I wont be overloaded before I even "load" my stuff on the truck!
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Old 06-07-2021, 04:05 AM   #14
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Jake you need a whole nother p/u just to haul your susp. parts
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